H20 has been connected to the main tree. It is part of L5.0.2
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:21:24 -0400 To: Suzan WynneFrom: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: H20 Hi, Do you have the original letter you received for fragment H20? I would like to try and contact these people. -Moishe _________________________________________________________________________ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 09:13:16 -0400 From: Suzan Wynne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-RR010799 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: H20 I never had an original letter. A friend had a book about Jews in a small portion of upstate NY in connection with her own family history. She knew of my interest in Langsams and pointed out the section. I created a mini family tree from the book's description. Years later, in 1997, actually, I had a letter from Martin Langsam, 6400 Mill Pointe Circle, Delray Beach, FL 33484 and we carried on a minor correspondence. He said he was the son of Jack and Tessie Langsam from H20. He was also related on his mother's side to H63 but I could never get him to tell him how that relationship worked. I called him and got very little from him. He said that his father, Jack, was born in 1892 in Austria. His grandfather was Aaron or Aron. Rose Kopita was his great aunt, his grandfather's sister. Aron's gravestone says that her father was Zvi Elimelech. Aron's wife was Etta Stecker. It was Etta who was somehow related to H63. Rose and Abe Kopita had a son Frank who lived in California in 1997. He had 3 sons, but Martin didn't know their whereabouts. Rose and Abe were married in NYC before moving to Tupper Lake. I never tried to find their marriage record. Rose is probably buried in Ogdensburg. I will make you a copy of Martin's longest letter which may help a bit more. Suzan _________________________________________________________________________ From: XRA3600@aol.com Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 20:55:27 EDT Subject: genealogy To: moishe@langsam.com iam trying to locate where my relatives were born in europe.if you have any information that could be of help i would appreciate an e-mail back. do you have any affiliation with the following people susan wynne yedidyah langsam estelle guzik i am a resident of florida.i was born & raised in brooklyn n.y. _________________________________________________________________________ Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 22:16:51 -0400 To: XRA3600@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: genealogy Hi, Thanks for your inquiry. Regarding the names that you mention, I know them but am not affiliated with them. When they were doing research they did not know of me. I am guessing you have some interest in offspring of Pesach Langsam (1748 - 1820). Have you seen my website at www.langsam.com I have much more information than is presented there. Can you tell me a little about the family you are interested in exploring? -Moishe Miller Brooklyn NY moishe@langsam.com _________________________________________________________________________ From: XRA3600@aol.com Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 22:50:48 EDT Subject: Re: genealogy To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 my family is all deceased & i cannot gather any information.in the langsam book that the afore mentioned people published put us in the incomplete section.i found the graves of my grandparents,also the society they belonged to. found the secretary of the society.he was of no help as all the records disappeared when the old secretary passed on.all iknow for sure that my father was born in austria.at this time the keyword is help i am also interested in one rose langsam,born on october 17,1880 in galicia or austria. she would link my fathers family to my mothers _________________________________________________________________________ Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 23:00:36 -0400 To: XRA3600@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: genealogy I have had a moderate amount of success with this type of situation. What page are you on in the book? What were your grandparent's names and is his Rose referenced in another section of the book? -Moishe _________________________________________________________________________ From: XRA3600@aol.com Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 23:26:28 EDT Subject: Re: genealogy To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 rose is referenced from some copies from an unknown book . my grandfather 's name is aaron my grandmother's name is etta we are on pg h17 (top) _________________________________________________________________________ Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 23:31:02 -0400 To: XRA3600@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: genealogy Are you Martin Langsam, son of Jack? _________________________________________________________________________ From: XRA3600@aol.com Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 23:31:32 EDT Subject: Re: genealogy To: moishe@langsam.com yes _________________________________________________________________________ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 00:04:10 -0400 To: XRA3600@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: genealogy Hi, In the interim, can you tell me a few things? Have you obtained Aaron's death certificate? Naturalization Record? Ship Record? How old was Aaron? I am guessing that the TWO attached ship records are your family. If so, we already know a lot, like they came from Lancut, Galicia. Aaron came to his uncle. He was born 1867. There is a naturalization record listed by his children, so we should try to locate it. Have you looked for Aaron in the 1900 census in NY? Maybe it lists him with this uncle (he came in 1899). Any other Langsam's buried near Aaron? There are quite a few Langsam's at Mt. Hebron. With that said, the basic approach is to go up another branch when you hit a deadend.So, did your grandfather have any known siblings? Did you father ever speak of aunts, uncles, or cousins? From your father's other siblings, were there any children? If so, have you contacted all of them? I can be of assistance in that area if you prefer. _________________________________________________________________________ From: XRA3600@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 00:11:55 EDT Subject: Re: genealogy To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 i am not in all the time .give me a time & i will be here. i wantto add a bit of info,ihave asister ethel & acousin belonging to rose _________________________________________________________________________ From: XRA3600@aol.com Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 22:53:14 EDT Subject: Re: Can you supply me with the correct email address for the Bronx Langsam's? To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 i haven't any address for harry&sue langsam. there name came to me from a janite@aol.com who contacted me on line &she wanted to know if i was related to them _________________________________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 23:01:26 -0400 To: XRA3600@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Can you supply me with the correct email address for the Bronx Langsam's? Hi, That is the address that I refer to. The email I sent to them "bounced". How long ago did they contact you? Also, I received your photos. Thanks! I now have a theory. To prove it, I need Aaron's mother's name. Do you have it? If not, can you call Mt. Hebron before we talk and see if they have it? Speak you you at 1pm tomorrow. -Moishe _________________________________________________________________________ From: XRA3600@aol.com Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 23:12:13 EDT Subject: Re: Can you supply me with the correct email address for the Bronx Langsam's? To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 the e-mail address is a least 2 o3 yrs ago i will contact the cemetary in the am to get aaron's mothers name _________________________________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:09:00 -0400 To: Suzan Wynne , Yedidyah_Langsam,mmcohen@mambo.ucsc.edu From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: H20 = L5.0.2 Dear Suzan, Yedidya, and Michael, Briefly, I was in contact with Martin Langsam of Florida. Based on our conversation I checked the EIDB. He also mailed me a tombstone picture of Aaron's (in Hebrew). With that I went to NY Vital Records (Chambers St). Based on the tombstone and death record, his Aaron is the same Aaron listed in L5.0.2 Points: Aaron was from Lancut, as per EIDB (see attachment), The tombstone says his father was Hersh Mylech He was 71 in 1937, the age fits the other children L5.0.2 says that Aaron came to the USA His death record says Aaron's mother was Beila. -Moishe PS: I have downloaded ALL the Langsam references in the EIDB that I could find. For those interested, I have a spreadsheet and the corresponding .gif files (total 21 mb). _________________________________________________________________________
I would be very interested to hear from anyone with knowledge or an interest in the Miller family.
Moishe Miller
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