From: SaulL123@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:27:25 EST Subject: Re: The Langsam Family To: moishe@langsam.com Dear Moishe, It's not that I haven't done any research on the Langsam family, but to tell you the truth, About 15 years ago a woman with the last name of Cohen was also doing reasearch on the Langsam-Spira family. I gave her my information of which there is very little because of the fact that my father-in-law was the only survivor of his family during the Holocaust. He lived in a small village in Poland and he has been deceased for 21 years. What little information we do have we have gotten from my mother-in-law and that is pretty sketchy. She knew that there were 2 uncles living in New York. By the time they emigrated to the U.S. they were elderly. Their children wanted nothing to do with these foreign cousins so all contact broke off. This family tree that was put together in the eighties could find no connection with our branch of the Langsams. I'm really sorry that I could not be of more help. Sincerely, Marsha Langsam _______________________________________________________ From: SaulL123@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:32:54 EST Subject: Re: Langsam Family To: moishe@langsam.com Dear Moishe, I located the book that was compiled by Michael Cohen. Here is the information I have: My father-in-law's father, Louser had a brother (possibly more than one) that came to the states (New York) in the early part of the 1900's. From the ship records that Michael Cohen discovered, there were 4 brothers that came from Jurezkowa Poland. They could very well be my father-in-law's uncles. Their names were Abraham, Hersh, Meyer, and Shajie. Their parents were listed as Jacob Langsam and Leie Kabalnick. Supposedly, Leie Kabalnick had a brother Elias in New York. Abraham came first and went to an uncle M. Goldblatt in NYC. He worked as a waiter at the Hotel Cecil in 1910 and lived at 30 w. 118th Street. Louser stayed in Poland because his parents were there and raised his children, my father-in-law being the oldest, did not leave at the onset of the war as he had to take care of the farm. My father-in-law had 3 brothers and 1 sister. Israel, Moishe, Aaron and Rachel. This is as far back as I can go since I was really lucky just to find out the names of my father-in-law's siblings. No one bothered to ask their names for future baby namings. I asked quite by accident while visiting him in the hospital shortly before he passed away. We never pursued the contact of the relatives in New York and no one ever contacted us. I hope this can help in some way. If you find any relatives it would be nice because my husband has no one from his father's family. Sincerely, Marsha _______________________________________________________ From: SaulL123@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:19:36 EST Subject: RE: langsam family To: Moishe@langsam.com Dear Moishe, As I was perusing your website, I came across the log of social security numbers with births and deaths. One stood out. I mentioned to you that my father-in-law went to visit an Uncle Harry who lived in NY. From the Langsam-Spira book (of which I have a copy) The four brothers that came from my father-in-laws home town were probably his uncles. The only one with a social security number is Harry. His birth date matches. The other three could possibly changed their names, as was the custom at that time, to sound more American. The name and zip code that I pulled up are Harry Langsam Born 1892, died May 1967 and the zip 11230 Brooklyn Kings NY. Has anyone laid claim to that branch? The children of that Harry would be close to 80 or 85. My father-in-law's father probably was the eldest. It would be interesting to finally meet some relatives from my father-in-laws side. I know my husband, Saul and my sister-in-law Nina would be thrilled. I guess I should tell you, I have 3 boys. My eldest is 21 (Jeffrey) my middle is 19 (Andrew) and my youngest is 14(David) Funny how some of the same names keep cropping up. If I can be of any more help or if you come across anything else, please let me know. Marsha Langsam _____________________________________________ From: SaulL123@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:33:30 EST Subject: Re: langsam family To: moishe@langsam.com Dear Moishe, The information in the book by Susan Wynne is more than I was able to find out. The only reason I would like information about our family, is that someone may possibly have pictures that were sent prior to WW2. No one from that branch of the family ever responded to Susan's inquiries. Sorry I can't be of more help. Marsha Langsam, Saul SaulL123@aol.com 402 Chapel Rd. Elkins Park, PA 19027 _________________________________________________________________________ From: Fine, Jeffrey [mailto:finej@HughesLuce.com] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 11:29 AM To: saull123@aol.com Cc: william langson; Fine, Richard Subject: Langsam letter Dear Marsha: I attach a circa 1938 letter which I believe proves that we are cousins. The attached letter was written to Sam (Shaje) Langsam when he lived with my grandfather Harry (Hersh or Herse) on 23rd street (with my mother Emily and Uncle Bill--who is cc'd on this email). Of the 4 brothers, Meyer, Abraham, Hersh and Shaje, Sam/Shaje either never married or was a widower--and lived with Harry (Hersh/Herse)in the 1930's on 23rd street in Brooklyn. Meyer/Mendel died in the flu pandemic of 1917. I don't know anything about Abe--perhaps Uncle Bill could tell us. In any event, the attached letter was given to me in 1978 by my mother when I was trying to figure out where the family came from. My mother did not know who the letter was from, except that it was from family in Poland. She said that Uncle used to send packages to the family. Well, I tried to have the letter translated by a co-worker who was a Holocaust survivor in 1978--he started to cry when he read the letter--he said the letter was way too sad. I prevailed upon him to at least tell me who the letter was from. (He did tell me that it was actually two letters). He wrote on the attachment that the letter was from: Her. Luser Langsam, Juriczkowa, Post Woitkowa, POW. Dobromil, Poland. Of course, my mother had no idea who Luser Langsam was--she thought he was a cousin. In reality, Luser Langsam was the 5th brother who stayed behind in Poland. I believe Luser is your grandfather, Uncle Bill's uncle, and Richard and mine, great uncle. I have no idea what the rest of the letter says. Please see what you can do to have the letter translated (and let's share the info of course)--I am also trying from my end. Thanks! Shabbat Shalom and Hag Sameach! Jeffrey R. Fine Hughes | Luce, LLP 1717 Main Street, Suite 2800 Dallas, Texas 75201 214.939.5567 214.939.5849 (fax) 214.632.9263 (cell) jeff.fine@hughesluce.com www.hughesluce.com _________________________________________________________________________ From: "Fine, Richard"Subject: RE: Langsam letter Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:04:11 -0500 To: "Fine, Jeffrey" , saull123@aol.com Cc: "william langson" , moishe@langsam.com Jeff, this is pretty cool stuff! Now, the big question is how to trace the lineage from Jacob Langsam to the original Langsam (Pesach). We may need to enlist the help of Moishe Miller, who developed the website on the Langsam lineage (I'm cc'ing him with the only email address I have for him). Moishe, if you get this, please respond so that we know your email is active. Thanks! Rich _ RICHARD J. FINE Vice President, Compensation and Benefits Tenet Healthcare Corporation, Headquarters Office 13737 Noel Road, Suite 100 Dallas, TX 75240 Office 469-893-6234 Office Fax 469-893-7234 Cell 469-387-8734 Assistant Barbara Stegemann 469-893-2526 email richard.fine@tenethealth.com _________________________________________________________________________ From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Langsam letter Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 23:43:14 -0400 To: "Fine, Richard" , "Fine, Jeffrey" , saull123@aol.com Cc: "william langson" , moishe@langsam.com Hi, Thanks for contacting me with your inquiry. I would be most interested in trying to link up our families. Can you send me the attachment you refer to? Below is an outline of what I know. Moishe Descendants of Jacob Langsam 1 Jacob Langsam of Jurezkowa, Poland .. +Leie Kabalnick ........ 2 Louser Langsam 1880 - 1942 ............ +Necha ? ................... 3 Tzvi Mordechai Langsam 1906 - 1978 of Jurezkowa, Poland ....................... +Dora Burstein ............................. 4 Saul Lolek Langsam of Cheltenham, PA ................................. +Marsha Langsam ........................................ 5 Jeffrey Langsam ........................................ 5 Andrew Langsam ............................. 4 Nina Langsam ................................. +N. Steven Jay ........................................ 5 Lisa Jay ........................................ 5 Harris Jay ................... 3 Israel Langsam - 1942 ................... 3 Moishe Langsam - 1942 ................... 3 Rachel Langsam - 1942 ................... 3 Aaron Langsam - 1942 ........ 2 Abraham Langsam 1890 - ........ 2 Hersh "Harry Langsam" Langsam 1892 - ........ 2 Meyer Langsam ........ 2 Shaje Langsam 1895 - _________________________________________________________________________ From: "Fine, Jeffrey" Subject: RE: Langsam letter Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:58:33 -0500 To: , "Fine, Richard" , Cc: "william langson" Moishe: Shavua Tov! I can fill-in some of the blanks. Meyer/Mendel Langsam died in the flu pandemic of 1917. Shaje/Sam Langsam died in the late 30's or early 40's in Brooklyn--as far as I know, he had no children. I know nothing about Abe. Harry/Herse/Hersh Langsam is/was my grandfather. He died in 1967, leaving my mother, Emily Fine, and her brother, Bill Langson. Seymour, my father, (died 1980) and Emily Fine had 3 sons. Mitchell, the oldest, who has 2 daughters. Richard, the youngest is married to Laura. Pam and I have 3 sons, Samuel, Benjamin and David. And, here is the letter I sent to Marsha the other day. Jeffrey R. Fine File: langsam_.pdf (1143Kbytes) _________________________________________________________________________ From: moishe@langsam.com [mailto:moishe@langsam.com] Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 11:44 PM To: Fine, Jeffrey; Fine, Richard; saull123@aol.com Cc: william langson Subject: Re: Langsam letter Hi, OK, so its Yiddish. I think I can muddle my way through the letter. I am in NY and its pretty late here. I will print it all out and review it in the morning. Moishe _________________________________________________________________________ From: "Fine, Jeffrey" Subject: RE: Langsam letter Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 00:28:12 -0500 To: Cc: , "william langson" , "Fine, Richard" Moishe: My middle son Benjamin is leaving tomorrow morning for the March of the Living. He is taking a copy of the letter and a list (unfortunately long) of our family who died in the Holocaust. I want to thank you for providing the information on the Langsams and helping us, through your genealogy efforts, to meet other sections of the family we knew nothing about--this is a big mitzvah you have done! Thanks again! Jeffrey R. Fine Hughes | Luce, LLP 1717 Main Street, Suite 2800 Dallas, Texas 75201 214.939.5567 214.939.5849 (fax) 214.632.9263 (cell) jeff.fine@hughesluce.com www.hughesluce.com _________________________________________________________________________ From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Langsam letter Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 01:11:51 -0400 To: "Fine, Jeffrey" , , "Fine, Richard" , Cc: "william langson" Hi, Just a quick check at my records. In the 1930 census, in the Bronx, there was an Abraham Langsam, age 39, from Galicia, married to Frieda, age 34, with children: Caroline age 14 (c. 1916) Miriam age 12 (c. 1918) Milton age 8 (c. 1922) Edith Frances age 6 months (c. 1929) I also found a death record for a MILTON LANGSAM, born 25 Dec 1921 and passed away on 7 Mar 1995 in 33321 (Fort Lauderdale, FL). You can file a request with Social Security to find out more details, possibly even forward a letter to the next of kin. On Switchboard.com I find no LANGSAMs listed for Fort Lauderdale, but there are 17 in the state of Florida. You might try calling a few. Let me know how else I can help. Moishe _________________________________________________________________________ From: SaulL123@aol.com Subject: Re: Langsam letter Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:59:28 EDT To: moishe@langsam.com Dear Moishe, This is truly a wonderful event that has happened to our family. After 60 years my husband Saul and his sister, Nina, have found cousins on their father's side. I do have an update on some of our information. Saul and I moved in 1990 and now reside in Elkins Park. Our children are Jeffrey,26, who got married in 2004 to Stacey. Andrew is now 24, and we have a third son, David who is 20. My sister- in-law, Nina and her husband Steve have a daughter Lisa,29, married to Dan and their son Harris is married to Marla. They have also become grandparents to a beautiful baby girl named Abbie. Nina and Steve reside in Cherry Hill NJ. Thanks again for your wonderful work Regards, Marsha Langsam _________________________________________________________________________ From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Langsam letter Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 23:19:21 -0400 To: "moishe@langsam.com" ,"Fine, Jeffrey" , , "Fine, Richard" , Cc: "william langson" Hi, Below is the tree as I have it put together so far. I muddled my way through one letter. BTW, the handwriting looks different and I am not sure if they were written by the same person. Anyhow, one letter is from Moshe and it begins with "My dear brother-in-law", so I am guessing that this one was written by Moshe Billet, brother to Harry's (Hersh) wife. I have copies of the ship manifests and will review. I think there may be a BILLET reference. The most important question for you tho think about: Do you know of ANY other LANGSAMs that are cousins to you, even if you do not know how? Moishe Descendants of Jacob Langsam 1 Jacob Langsam Jurezkowa, Poland .. +Leie Kabalnick ........ 2 Louser Langsam 1880 - 1942 ............ +Necha ? ................... 3 Tzvi Mordechai Langsam 1906 - 1978 Jurezkowa, Poland ....................... +girl ? - 1942 ................... *2nd Wife of Tzvi Mordechai Langsam: ....................... +Dora Burstein ............................. 4 Saul Lolek Langsam Elkins Park, PA ................................. +Marsha Solomon ........................................ 5 Jeffrey Langsam 1979 - ............................................ +Stacey Meslin ........................................ 5 Andrew Langsam 1981 - ........................................ 5 David Langsam 1985 - ............................. 4 Nina Langsam Cherry Hill, NJ ................................. +N. Steven "Steve Jay" Jay ........................................ 5 Lisa Jay 1976 - ............................................ +Dan Kessler ........................................ 5 Harris Jay ............................................ +Marla Gilman ................... 3 Israel Langsam - 1942 ................... 3 Moishe Langsam - 1942 ................... 3 Rachel Langsam - 1942 ................... 3 Aaron Langsam - 1942 ........ 2 Abraham Langsam 1882 - ........ 2 Hersh "Harry Langsam" Langsam 1892 - 1967 ............ +girl Billet ................... 3 Emily Langsam ....................... +Seymour Fine - 1980 ............................. 4 Mitchell Fine ........................................ 5 girl Fine ........................................ 5 girl Fine ............................. 4 Jeffrey Fine ................................. +Pam ? ........................................ 5 Samuel Fine ........................................ 5 Benjamin Fine ........................................ 5 David Fine ............................. 4 Richard Fine ................................. +Laura ? ................... 3 William "Bill Langson" Langson ........ 2 Shaje "Sam Langsam" Langsam 1895 - 1940 ........ 2 Meyer Langsam 1900 - 1917 _________________________________________________________________________ From: "Fine, Richard" Subject: RE: Langsam letter Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:14:37 -0500 To: moishe@langsam.com, "Fine, Jeffrey" , saull123@aol.com Cc: "william langson" Moishe, this is great. I've got a few insights. First, our grandfather Harry's (Hersh's) wife was Hattie Wolf (i.e., was not a Billet). However, on the Ellis Island ship manifest record for Abe Langsam, there is a mention of a friend David Billet on Willer (sp?) Street who came to pick him up. Is it possible that one of the sisters who remained in Jurezkowa was married to a Billet? Incidentally, I had some difficulty finding Abe's record. It's actually listed in ellisisland.org as Abraham Langsaw (and not Langsam). He came over in December 1905 and was listed as age 17 at the time, making his birth year 1888. By the way, who was Jacob Langsam's father? _________________________________________________________________________ From: SaulL123@aol.com Subject: Re: Langsam letter Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 11:27:29 EDT To: moishe@langsam.com Moishe, Is it possible that Moishe Billet was a brother to Necha and writing the letter for her? I don't know any background on my father-in-law's mother. Was that her maiden name? Was she asking for a dowry for her daughter Rachel? There are still many questions and I'm hoping when I have the l etter translated it will answer some of them. We're still working on it. Marsha _________________________________________________________________________ From: SaulL123@aol.com Subject: Re: Langsam letter Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 15:46:37 EDT To: moishe@langsam.com Dear Moishe, My mother-in-law is translating the letter. She is having some difficulty because it is not printed yiddish but written. If the letter was signed by Moishe, He could have written it for his mother. Moishe was a sibling of my father-in-law, hence my dearest brother- in-law. I do not know of any sisters of the Langsam brothers from Jureczkowa. As far as any other survivors from this line, if they did not come to the states, they perished in the holocaust. I do know that Luser passed away prior to the holocaust from disease and my father-in-law stayed in Poland to look after his mother and siblings as he was the oldest. The baby Abbie is the child of Lisa and Dan, and yes, Nina's married name is Jay If you have any other questions I hope that I can help Marsha _________________________________________________________________________ From: SaulL123@aol.com Subject: Re: Langsam letter Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:15:56 EDT To: moishe@langsam.com Dear Moishe, I had a lovely conversation with Emily Fine last night. She gave me a little more information. Sha remembers that her Uncle Abe, Harry's brother was married to Sadie. They had 2 children Harold and Caroline. She was friends with Caroline and she thinks that she married a man named Bob Schwartz. Also her father had a cousin also named Abe Langsam who was married to Molly and they had 2 sons, Jack and Milton. We're trying! Marsha _________________________________________________________________________ From: william langson [mailto:billlbison@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:03 PM To: RICHARD.Fine@tenethealth.com; Fine, Jeffrey Subject: langsam family history I am really imp rest with the amount of history that has shown up in such a short period of time. To correct one person mentioned that had lived with us was not Sam Langsam but Sam Wolf who was my mothers uncle.You can check this out with your mother who will i am sure will remember. My farther had a cousin in the bronx who name was Abe langsam and his wife was Molly Langsam. His brother who also lived in the Bronx was also Abe Langsam had 2 children Caroline & Harold. Abe had lost one leg due to diabetes and my farther would help them as much has he could.We have lost contact with them after my farther died but i remember them at my wedding. The Milton mentioned in Florida i believe was my farthers cousin son Abe langsam. Sam Langsam I believe was never married. My farther had a cousin that wound up in Sweden that he helped come to the U.S. He was in Pensylvania the last i remember. If you need any further information please keep me in the loop Uncle Bill _________________________________________________________________________ From: Fine, Jeffrey [mailto:finej@HughesLuce.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 11:18 AM To: william langson Cc: Fine, Richard; SaulL123@aol.com; mitchelldf@cs.com; Phf5825@aol.com; Buf11@aol.com; sfine@wam.umd.edu; daf81289@mac.com Subject: RE: langsam family history Dear Uncle Bill: Thanks for your email-- Mom also had a lot of information. I wanted to summarize everything for you, Richard and Mitchell--and our cousins Saul and Marsha--who are cc'd on this email. Mom had a terrific conversation with Marsha and I had a wonderful talk with Saul. Here goes: Bottom-line--we reconnected with the Langsam family--here are the details (this is a combination of what Richard and I learned from Mom, public records, Saul and Marsha Langsam, my own recollection, and you): 1. Grandpa (Pop) Harry was one of five brothers--Abraham/Abe, Meyer/Mendel, Shaje/Sam, Herse/Hersh/Harry and Louser (pronounced loo-ser). They were the children of Yacov and Leia (Kabalnik) Langsam, from the village of Jaretskowa/Jaricskowa in Galicia. Yacov's mother had a farm and was better off than most--but Yacov, although very poor, apparently never asked for help from his mother. Mom says that Pop once told her that there were 4 sisters as well--but no one else knows of that. They barely had enough to eat. 2. Abe was the first one to come to America. He saved money and sent for Grandpa/Pop. Then Grandpa saved money and sent for Meyer/Mendel and then he also sent money to bring over Sam. Why Louser did not come over we don't know. But I speculate he had some health problem and therefore could not travel--but we don't know. The brothers left to avoid being conscripted into the army. 3. Sam never married--and he lived by himself in the Bronx--I think. Meyer/Mendel died in the flu pandemic of 1917. 4. Louser was married to Necha, stayed in Poland with Yacov. Grandma Leia, whose Hebrew name was probably Leia Kreindel-- died young--Mom believes that Grandpa Yacov may have actually lived until he was killed by the Nazis. The only thing I have found so far from them is the letter from 1938 which is being translated. 5. Louser died before the war from some illness. He had children: Tzvi Mordechai Langsam (survived), Israel Langsam - 1942; Moishe Langsam - 1942; Rachel Langsam - 1942; Aaron Langsam - 1942. Saul's father (Tzvi Mordecai?), was the only one to survive the war--from Dachau. I believe everyone else died in Auschwitz--but I don't know for sure. He was sent to Sweden to a DP camp after the war, where he married Dora. He is the nephew who made contact with Grandpa. Mom distinctly remembers sending packages to them in Sweden. Grandpa was not certain at first who exactly he was--but, he told Mom that this was a person in need and they must help--even if he wasn't a relative. Eventually, Grandpa helped to bring them over to Philadelphia. Saul remembers visiting Grandpa in an apartment. Mom believes they came to your wedding--do you have wedding pictures you could scan and send? Saul's father was your and Mom's first cousin. 6. The brother Abe you mention below was married to Sadie. His child Harold died young. Caroline Langsam married Bob? Schwartz--Mom doesn't think she has an address--but we are working on that. 7. The other cousins--Abe and Molly Langsam--Mom believes that part of the family is from Romania--not far from Juretskowa--we are checking on that. 8. Uncle Bill--you could help if you have any addresses, phone numbers of any of the Langsams, old letters, photos, or anything else you can remember. Finally, I think it is very appropriate that this week--on Yom Hashoah--we are reconnecting--and remembering those of our family who died in the Holocaust. Regards to all! Jeff _________________________________________________________________________ From: "Fine, Richard" Subject: RE: langsam family history Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:26:37 -0500 To: "Fine, Jeffrey" , "william langson" , moishe@langsam.com Cc: SaulL123@aol.com, mitchelldf@cs.com, Phf5825@aol.com, Buf11@aol.com, sfine@wam.umd.edu, daf81289@mac.com Jeff, thanks for summarizing all of this. It's pretty amazing stuff. I will work on getting copies/photos of the ship manifests from Ellis Island. Also, thanks to Moishe Miller for everything he's done to document the Langsam family history over the years, and for creating the forum that allowed us to find Saul and Marsha (albeit through a five-year old web posting!). Moishe, would you happen to know how many Langsam descendents there are in the US? Thanks! Rich _________________________________________________________________________ From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: langsam family history Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 22:31:30 -0400 To: "Fine, Richard" , "Fine, Jeffrey" , "william langson" , moishe@langsam.com Cc: SaulL123@aol.com, mitchelldf@cs.com, Phf5825@aol.com, Buf11@aol.com, sfine@wam.umd.edu, daf81289@mac.com Dear Cousins, I have reviewed your notes and believe that the OTHER Abe Langsam is the one from Przemysl, Poland, mentioned as the H23 link in the LANGSAM-SPIRA book. Some detail on this family is in my website. The exact page is: http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/langsam/h23.htm Notice the name BILLET as Mollie's surname. The latest information I have for this tree is: 1 H23 - unknown LANGSAM ........ 2 Leah Langsam ............ +Leibush Lustig ................... 3 Ephraim Lustig ................... 3 child Lustig ................... 3 child Lustig ................... 3 child Lustig ................... 3 David Lustig ............................. 4 Renee Lustig ................................. +boy Aranoff ........ 2 child Langsam ................... 3 Abraham Langsam 1888 - 1961 of Przemysl, Poland ....................... +Mollie Billet ............................. 4 Jack Langsam 1911 - 1971 ................................. +Dorothy ? ........................................ 5 William Langsam 1941 - ............................................ +Wilma Epstein .................................................. 6 David Langsam 1964 - .................................................. 6 Debra Langsam 1967 - .................................................. 6 Adam Langsam 1968 - ........................................ *2nd Wife of William Langsam: ............................................ +Linda ? ............................. *2nd Wife of Jack Langsam: ................................. +Judith ? ........................................ 5 Andrew Langsam ............................. 4 Milton Langsam I know that in 1985 William Langsam was in Insurance and lived in Long Island. Looking in switchboard, I find only one William Langsam in all of NY. He is in Long Island, at 38 Stone Hill Dr S Manhasset, NY 11030-4426 (516) 365-4343 If you follow-up with him, please let me know what happens. I called him several times a few years ago, but we never actually spoke. I also have a question. You state that "Louser died before the war from some illness", while the Langsam-Spira book states that he perished in the Holocaust. Can this be clarified any further? Regarding Rich's comments, first let me once again thank him for his very kind words. As for the Langsam manifests from Ellis Island, I have most of them. Let me know which ones you would like and if I can email large files to you and I will send them. As for the number of living Langsam descendents, I do not have a current count. What I can tell you is that Pesach Langsam, our earliest known ancestor, has over 14,000 known descendents. I am still computerizing the families, but already have data-entered over 11,600 people. This spans eleven generations. Can you identify all the new email addresses on this note? -Moishe _________________________________________________________________________ From: william langson Subject: langson family tree Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 22:57:21 -0700 To: moishe@langsam.com,finej@HughesLuce.com,RICHARD.Fine@tenethealth.com Thank you very much for all the information you have provided to my nephews about our family. My full name is William langson that as it appears on my birth certificate. I am married to Mildred and have 3 children Drew Hope Karen. I am Harry Langsam son. I am retired and live in Arizona. My address is 14574 Bison Path Surprise AZ. 85374. My telephone number is 623 546 8028. I would appreciate if you will add my name to the family tree. If i can help you any further please contact by e.m. or phone. I want to thank you again for responses. Regards Bill Langson _________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Langsam Hamburg Departures Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 14:06:12 -0400 To: "Fine, Richard" , "Fine, Jeffrey" , "william langson" , moishe@langsam.com Cc: SaulL123@aol.com, mitchelldf@cs.com, Phf5825@aol.com, Buf11@aol.com, sfine@wam.umd.edu, daf81289@mac.com Hi, You might also want to search the Hamburg departure lists, one of the main ports in Europe from where people left. There is a website at: http://ltyr.hamburg.de/ -Moishe _________________________________________________________________________
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