Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:44:43 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Langsam <email@example.com> Subject: Re: Langsam Family To: "firstname.lastname@example.org" <email@example.com> I am unaware of any family connection to the Miller family. Most of my Langsam relatives are no longer living. My grandfather's name was Isidore Langsam. That's as far back as I go. If you think there is a connection between our families, let me know. Richard Langsam ===== RHLangsam Abberley Kooiman LLP _____________________________________________________________________ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 07:39:22 -0500 To: Richard Langsam <firstname.lastname@example.org> From: "email@example.com" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: Re: Langsam Family Hi, Thanks for taking the time to reply to my note. There are several Isidore Langsam's in the tree already. If I had to guess, could it be Isidore married to Jenny with children Ralph and Abraham (at least). If not, can you tell me your grandmother's name and about when they came to the US? Thanks again! Moishe _____________________________________________________________________ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:27:07 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Langsam <email@example.com> Subject: Re: Langsam Family To: "firstname.lastname@example.org" <email@example.com> You've got the right Isidore! My father was Abraham; he had two brothers, Ralph and Solomon. Do you have any other info re my grandfather or my grandmother Jenny? Richard Langsam ===== RHLangsam Abberley Kooiman LLP _____________________________________________________________________ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:39:51 -0500 To: Richard Langsam <firstname.lastname@example.org> From: "email@example.com" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: Re: Langsam Family Hi, Thank you again for responding to my query. I will lay out what I know. Isidore came to the USA as an unmarried man, on 19 Oct 1906 aboard the ship Pretoria. His last residence (permanent) was Krakow. He was going to his brother Adolf (Abraham) Langsam, 127 Forsyth St, NYC. He was born in Krakow. Based on ship records and a letter whose details an earlier researcher published, Adolf, Anna, Ida, and Isidore were siblings. Their mother was Ruje and their father Selig, from Krakow. Isidore's Jewish name was Izak (Yitzchok). According to US vital records and the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland project, Izak was born July 8, 1888. More vital records data regarding his birth can be found on Akt 401 in film 1895667 (at a local Family History Center) which records Krakow Births from 1888. Let me know if you are interested in this. Based on his March 18, 1916 Brooklyn Naturalization, his wife was Jenny, born in Tarnow (now in Poland), listed as being 28 years old (1888?). They had two children at the time, Ralph, born in Newark, NJ on Feb 7, 1911, and Abraham in Brooklyn on March 14, 1914. His occupation was "Hatter". His witnesses were Herman Rosenberg and Harry Kleinhandler, both hatters. Returning to Izak's siblings - Adolf, Anna, and Ida were already mentioned. Ida was widowed and came to the US in 1920, age 28. her late husband's name seems to have been Nachemie. Another sibling seems to have been Goldie, born in 1883, came to the US in 1908. Also one of Izak's sisters married Jacob Schultz of NY. The other Krakow birth records that seem to match in name or time frame are: LANGSAM Abraham, born 1884 Akt 369 film 1895666 LANGSAM Chana, born 1886 Akt 291 film 1895666 LANGSAM Izak, born 1888 Akt 401 film 1895667 LANGSAM Abraham Abe, born 1889 Akt 260 film 1895667. Isidore's brother, Adolf, married Gussie (Jewish name Malka) and had three children. Leo, David Schmuel and Rosalind (married to Louis Quaytman). David's children are Howard Earl (Jewish name Tzvi Hersh) and Louis (Jewish name Levi [Eli]Melech). Louis, married to Bryna Schneider, has two children, Michael and Elisa. In 1986 he was living in Seal Beach, CA. Please share some detail regarding your own family and what you might know regarding Isidore (Izak)'s offspring and other siblings. Also of interest, do you know of any other Langsam cousins, outside of the offspring of Isidore (Izak) or his siblings. This will help to possibly connect other branches of our tree. I have some of this data scanned in, please let me know if I should email you copies of the ship manifest and naturalization. -Moishe Miller email@example.com www.langsam.com _____________________________________________________________________ From: "Richard Langsam"
To: Subject: Langsam Family Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:41:20 -0500 Organization: Abberley Kooiman LLP Hi, Thank you for your prompt response and detailed information. I have to tell you I am completely blown away by learning of the breadth of the Langsam family. I am fascinated by it- as I essentially lost contact with the Langsam family upon the death of my father when I was 5 years old. I am now 48. I had always been under the impression, (I’m not sure from where) that the Langsam family was a small one. Indeed, the few Langsam’s that I have come across in NYC are either not Jewish or did not appear to be relatives from my scant knowledge of the family. From your website, I now know the error of my belief. I am quite interested in seeing where I fit into the family tree you have been compiling- your website is incredible, I am still wandering through it. I will provide what sketchy information that I have about my branch of the tree and would love to receive the materials you mentioned that you have regarding Isidore's entry into the United States as well as any other suggestions you may have for finding more information. Isidore’s wife, my grandmother, Jenny predeceased Isidore and he remarried a woman that I knew only as "Grandma Goldie". Isidore's three sons’ families are as follows: * Abraham (wife Sylvia) had one son Richard (me) and one daughter Bette Lynne (now Bette Lynne Pricer); * Solomon (the youngest son) was married to Marsha and had one son, Joel; * Ralph was married to Bernice and had one son, Lawrence and one daughter, Diane. Do you have any information regarding Isidore’s parents or into which branch of Pesach's family he fits? If you do, I would be very interested in securing such information. Also, how does one get a copy of the “Langsam-Spira” book you mention on your website? Again, many thanks for providing this insight into my long lost family. Richard Langsam _____________________________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 00:12:06 -0500 To: "Richard Langsam" <firstname.lastname@example.org> From: "email@example.com" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: Re: Langsam Family Hi, Thanks for your kind words. I am very happy to try and place you on the tree. Unfortunately, there is still not enough detail to do that. Perhaps if you can obtain the microfilmed vital records we would uncover more leads and details. Is that something that you are interested in pursuing? Do you have any connection with the cousins that I mentioned (or didn't)? They may help provide more details/leads. How about the death (or marriage) record for Isidore? I work in NYC (near ground zero) and may be able to look up the marriage record at 31 Chambers. Regarding your request, I will email them as attachments. Can you supply a mailing address as well? Suzan Wynne's email is email@example.com. Let me know when you receive the book and I will walk you through what I see as your section. Attached are the images I have scanned. What other Langsam's have you met that were not Jewish? I have not met any that did not have Jewish roots. -Moishe firstname.lastname@example.org _____________________________________________________________________ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 07:00:19 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Langsam Subject: Re: attachment To: "email@example.com" Thank you for your update. There is one minor error- Izak's son, Ralph, was married to "Bernice", not to Sylvia. Best regards. Richard Langsam ===== RHLangsam Abberley Kooiman LLP _____________________________________________________________________ From: "Richard Langsam" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: Re: LANGSAM family and Abberley Kooiman LLP Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:10:28 -0400 To: <email@example.com> yes we did correspond. No, no further relatives. _____________________________________________________________________
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