The Selig Langsam Family of Krakow
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:44:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Langsam <rhlangsam@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Langsam Family
To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
I am unaware of any family connection to the Miller
family. Most of my Langsam relatives are no longer
living. My grandfather's name was Isidore Langsam.
That's as far back as I go. If you think there is a
connection between our families, let me know.
Richard Langsam
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RHLangsam
Abberley Kooiman LLP
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Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 07:39:22 -0500
To: Richard Langsam <rhlangsam@yahoo.com>
From: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Subject: Re: Langsam Family
Hi,
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my note. There are several
Isidore Langsam's in the tree already. If I had to guess, could it be
Isidore married to Jenny with children Ralph and Abraham (at least).
If not, can you tell me your grandmother's name and about when they
came to the US?
Thanks again!
Moishe
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:27:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Langsam <rhlangsam@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Langsam Family
To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
You've got the right Isidore! My father was Abraham;
he had two brothers, Ralph and Solomon. Do you have
any other info re my grandfather or my grandmother
Jenny?
Richard Langsam
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RHLangsam
Abberley Kooiman LLP
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Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:39:51 -0500
To: Richard Langsam <rhlangsam@yahoo.com>
From: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Subject: Re: Langsam Family
Hi,
Thank you again for responding to my query. I will lay out what I know.
Isidore came to the USA as an unmarried man, on 19 Oct 1906 aboard the
ship Pretoria. His last residence (permanent) was Krakow. He was going
to his brother Adolf (Abraham) Langsam, 127 Forsyth St, NYC. He was born
in Krakow. Based on ship records and a letter whose details an earlier
researcher published, Adolf, Anna, Ida, and Isidore were siblings. Their
mother was Ruje and their father Selig, from Krakow. Isidore's Jewish
name was Izak (Yitzchok).
According to US vital records and the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
project, Izak was born July 8, 1888. More vital records data regarding
his birth can be found on Akt 401 in film 1895667 (at a local Family
History Center) which records Krakow Births from 1888. Let me know if
you are interested in this. Based on his March 18, 1916 Brooklyn
Naturalization, his wife was Jenny, born in Tarnow (now in Poland),
listed as being 28 years old (1888?). They had two children at the time,
Ralph, born in Newark, NJ on Feb 7, 1911, and Abraham in Brooklyn on
March 14, 1914. His occupation was "Hatter". His witnesses were Herman
Rosenberg and Harry Kleinhandler, both hatters.
Returning to Izak's siblings - Adolf, Anna, and Ida were already mentioned.
Ida was widowed and came to the US in 1920, age 28. her late husband's name
seems to have been Nachemie. Another sibling seems to have been Goldie,
born in 1883, came to the US in 1908. Also one of Izak's sisters married
Jacob Schultz of NY. The other Krakow birth records that seem to match in
name or time frame are:
LANGSAM Abraham, born 1884 Akt 369 film 1895666
LANGSAM Chana, born 1886 Akt 291 film 1895666
LANGSAM Izak, born 1888 Akt 401 film 1895667
LANGSAM Abraham Abe, born 1889 Akt 260 film 1895667.
Isidore's brother, Adolf, married Gussie (Jewish name Malka) and had
three children. Leo, David Schmuel and Rosalind (married to Louis
Quaytman). David's children are Howard Earl (Jewish name Tzvi Hersh)
and Louis (Jewish name Levi [Eli]Melech). Louis, married to Bryna
Schneider, has two children, Michael and Elisa. In 1986 he was living
in Seal Beach, CA.
Please share some detail regarding your own family and what you might
know regarding Isidore (Izak)'s offspring and other siblings.
Also of interest, do you know of any other Langsam cousins, outside of
the offspring of Isidore (Izak) or his siblings. This will help to
possibly connect other branches of our tree.
I have some of this data scanned in, please let me know if I should email
you copies of the ship manifest and naturalization.
-Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
www.langsam.com
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From: "Richard Langsam"
To:
Subject: Langsam Family
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:41:20 -0500
Organization: Abberley Kooiman LLP
Hi,
Thank you for your prompt response and detailed information. I have to
tell you I am completely blown away by learning of the breadth of the
Langsam family. I am fascinated by it- as I essentially lost contact
with the Langsam family upon the death of my father when I was 5 years
old. I am now 48. I had always been under the impression, (I’m not sure
from where) that the Langsam family was a small one. Indeed, the few
Langsam’s that I have come across in NYC are either not Jewish or did
not appear to be relatives from my scant knowledge of the family. From
your website, I now know the error of my belief. I am quite interested
in seeing where I fit into the family tree you have been compiling- your
website is incredible, I am still wandering through it.
I will provide what sketchy information that I have about my branch of
the tree and would love to receive the materials you mentioned that you
have regarding Isidore's entry into the United States as well as any other
suggestions you may have for finding more information. Isidore’s wife, my
grandmother, Jenny predeceased Isidore and he remarried a woman that I
knew only as "Grandma Goldie". Isidore's three sons’ families are as
follows:
* Abraham (wife Sylvia) had one son Richard (me) and one daughter Bette
Lynne (now Bette Lynne Pricer);
* Solomon (the youngest son) was married to Marsha and had one son, Joel;
* Ralph was married to Bernice and had one son, Lawrence and one daughter,
Diane.
Do you have any information regarding Isidore’s parents or into which branch
of Pesach's family he fits? If you do, I would be very interested in securing
such information.
Also, how does one get a copy of the “Langsam-Spira” book you mention on your
website?
Again, many thanks for providing this insight into my long lost family.
Richard Langsam
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Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 00:12:06 -0500
To: "Richard Langsam" <rl@abberleykooiman.com>
From: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Subject: Re: Langsam Family
Hi,
Thanks for your kind words. I am very happy to try and place you on the
tree. Unfortunately, there is still not enough detail to do that. Perhaps
if you can obtain the microfilmed vital records we would uncover more
leads and details. Is that something that you are interested in pursuing?
Do you have any connection with the cousins that I mentioned (or didn't)?
They may help provide more details/leads. How about the death (or marriage)
record for Isidore? I work in NYC (near ground zero) and may be able to
look up the marriage record at 31 Chambers. Regarding your request, I will
email them as attachments. Can you supply a mailing address as well?
Suzan Wynne's email is srwynne@erols.com. Let me know when you receive the
book and I will walk you through what I see as your section.
Attached are the images I have scanned.
What other Langsam's have you met that were not Jewish? I have not met any
that did not have Jewish roots.
-Moishe
moishe@langsam.com
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Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 07:00:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Langsam
Subject: Re: attachment
To: "moishe@langsam.com"
Thank you for your update. There is one minor error-
Izak's son, Ralph, was married to "Bernice", not to
Sylvia.
Best regards.
Richard Langsam
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RHLangsam
Abberley Kooiman LLP
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From: "Richard Langsam" <richard@langsam.net>
Subject: Re: LANGSAM family and Abberley Kooiman LLP
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:10:28 -0400
To: <moishe@langsam.com>
yes we did correspond. No, no further relatives.
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I would be very interested to hear from anyone with knowledge or an interest in the Miller family.
Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
My home address is
1374 East 28th Street
Brooklyn NY 11210-5311
USA
Last updated 8/30/04