From: "Larry R. Feder"
To: Subject: Re: Many new Schonfeld descendants added Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:05:16 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Dear Moishe, Our family is descended on my mother's side from the Lisker Rav, R. Tzvi Hersh Friedman, of Olaszliska, Hungary. My mother's maiden name was Goldberger, direct line from Yoizef Goldberger, son -in -law of the Lisker (author of Ach Pri T'vua and HaYoshor V'Hatov-more on that later). I only wish our connection to the Bnei Yissochor was as clear. I will fill in the missing information that I know offhand, as I don't have time to look up trees, charts, and birth records right now. I will fill in what I know in CAPS, so that it will be easy for you to see what I've added. I also forwarded your message to another family member, and told him to respond to you as able. > Descendants of Chana Mindel Uri > > 1 Chana Mindel Uri > .. +Tzvi Newman > ......... 2 Naftali Yeshaya Hertz Newman 1888 - 1952 > ............. +Ettel GOLDBERGER> ......... *2nd Wife of Nathan Newman: > ............. +Krantcha GOLDBERGER? (A SISTER TO ETTEL) > .................... 3 Yosef Newman > ............................... 4 Tcharna Faiga Newman > ............................... 4 Chana Mindel Newman > ............................... 4 Maxi Newman > .................... 3 Chana Mindel Newman (MARGIE) > ........................ +Pesach Dovid Schonfeld 1910 - 2000 > .................... 3 Herschel Newman > .................... 3 Gittel Leah Newman > .................... 3 Louie Newman - RACHI > ......... 2 Perri Newman > ............. +boy Klein > .................... 3 child Klein > .................... 3 Tzvi Klein > ............................... 4 Avrohm Dovid Klein > ......... 2 Shea Newman > ......... 2 Yankel Newman Louis Newman has another brother name Ari, married to a SHUStERMAN, currently lives in Fla., a sister Nellie (Krantche) married name Auerbach. Together, we can probably piece together more of this. Regards, Elizabeth ______________________________________________________________________ From: "Larry R. Feder" To: Subject: Newman family clarification & corrections Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:27:41 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Dear Moishe, I made a mistake. Herschel Newman is married to a Shusterman & living in Fla. Ari passed away several yrs ago. I have Chana Mindel Uri's son listed as Shaya Naftali, not Naftali Shaya.If you don't know of any family members to consult about this, I could probably find someone to ask, although I am not in direct, constant contact with them.My aunt is. A key Q for you, which would hint at a lot of info: Do you know who Naftali Yeshaya (or reversed) was named after? Again, my Schonfeld Ggrandfather was Naftali Yeshaya Asher, and I don't know of an antecedent with that name, though I can go back 2 more generations. What about the town of origin? My Newman source tells me the Newmans came from Uhely. Also, your birthdate for NYH of 1888 seems wrong-or my dob for Ettel of 1863 is wrong. Let's check on that if we can. At this point I am still in the process of researching & entering Newman family names. Regards, Elizabeth _____________________________________________________________________________ From: "Larry R. Feder" To: Subject: Re: Neuman- Gldberger-Lisker Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 21:18:04 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Larry R. Feder" Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 6:24 AM Subject: Re: Many new Schonfeld descendants added > What is your OWN lineage in this tree? > -Moishe > Ettel & Krantche were sisters to Zalman Leib Goldberger, who was my mother's father. Krantche is a very common name in the Lisker family, as that was the Rebbetzin's name. ______________________________________________________________________ From: "Larry R. Feder" To: Subject: Re: Neuman- Gldberger-Lisker Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 06:50:16 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Larry R. Feder" Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 10:17 PM Subject: Re: Neuman- Gldberger-Lisker > Who were Ettel, Krantche and Zalman Leib's parents? Aharon Goldberger & Gendendel (Nanci) Lefkovits > Do you have dates for when they were born or at least age order? Sorry, No. I do know that Zalman Lieb (Lajos, legally,) was born April, 1885. The rest I'm still working on. > Do you know after whom Shaya Naftali Hertz was named? My great-grandfather on the Schonfeld side was Naftali Yeshaya Asher Schonfeld, and I am trying to see where a connection might be. Also, the Lisker sefer that I mentioned has lots of info in it. It is currently out of print, and I am trying to get access to it and to get the pertintent gen. pages xeroxed. So far, I haven't had success with that. I had an unexpected opportunity to see that sefer for a short time this past summer, and was not in a position to take proper advantage of the opportunity. I will IY"H be seeing my aunt & uncle in mid- Dec, and hope to clarify some of this. Kol Tuv, Elizabeth ______________________________________________________________________ From: TULLY57@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:29:23 EST Subject: Fwd: Fw: Many new Schonfeld descendants added To: email@example.com Hi My name is Tully Auerbach. I am named after my grandfather, Yeshaya Naftali Hertz Newman (not Naftali Yeshaya Hertz, as you have it.) His second wife was Ettel or Esther, who was the sister of his first wife, Krantche. Esther had two children with Yeshaya Naftali Hertz Newman. 1) My mother Krantche (Nellie) Married to Moshe Aharon Auerbach Three children: Pessel (Phyllis) married to David Schoenbrun Raize (Ronnie) married to Peter Stern Yeshaya Naftali Hertz (Tully, me) Married to Alisa Feldman 2) My uncle Louis Newman, married to Rachi I have always wanted to trace the family back to the B'nei Y'saschar My zayde, O'H has on his matzeyva that he is a Dinover aynikle My mothetr was born in Uhel and came over when she was three There is a family in Brooklyn named Heller, who were cousins of my grandfather, who are also descended from the B'nei Y'saschar UIcan fill you in on the whole Klein mishpoco too, as my cousin, Yiddel Klein lives across the street from my parents in Far Rockaway. If you would like any more names of children of my mother's half-siblings' children & grandchildren, just ask & I'll ask my mom. If you want the names of my kids or my sisters' kids & granchildren, just ask ______________________________________________________________________ From: TULLY57@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:29:47 EST Subject: Fwd: Correction To: firstname.lastname@example.org Correction, Sibling #2 of my mother, a son of Esther & Nathan Newman was Artie (Irving Newman) O'H not louis, & married to Rochelle ______________________________________________________________________ From: TULLY57@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 00:38:57 EST Subject: Re: Request + Info To: email@example.com CC: firstname.lastname@example.org Dear Moishe, Thank you SO much for the information. Iwould be happy to tell you everything I can. I'll call my mom & get the Klein facts. I'll get my cousin Yidel Klein's phone # for you & you can speak to him direcrtly. Do you know of my uncle Louis Newman in Far Rockaway? He is a fantastic source. If not, I'll get you his number too. Interestingly, My zayde Nathan, had a brother who, as the family story goes, embarassed the family by working on shabbos. Supposedly Nathan told him to desist or leave New york. He left, and ended up in Mexico. There is a whole Newman branch in Mexico City, headed by their patriarch, Nicky, the nephew of Nathan. I can get you his number too, if you wish. Speak to you soon, Tully By the way, my sisters & I were all delivered by a Dr. Langsam in Far Rockaway, a prominent Og-Gyn in the area for many years. A relative perhaps? _____________________________________________________________________ From: Mekalhalav@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:28:35 EDT Subject: Distant Relative To: email@example.com X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Dear Moishe, I must start by saying that I will always be eternally grateful to you. My grandparents have always told me that I was related to the Bnei Yissascher, but no one in my family quite knew how. With your extensive and pervasive family tree, it was very simple to trace my family all the way back to Pesach Langsam. I am a descendant of R' Yakov Uri, and his second wife Yitta Leah through their daughter Chana Mindel and Tzvi Neuman. One of their daughters - Perel (Perri) is the mother of my grandfather. Perel married Dovid Klein and had 14 children. I can also help you with Perel's brothers, as I see your'e missing information after her mother's generation. And as for Perel's descendants I can take you all the way to the youngest baby alive today (though I don't think you want that much information). Please let me know how many generations of information you want and I will do my best to send it to you. On another note, I would like to know how I could obtain a copy of Suzan Wynne's book "The Langsam-Spira Family" that you mention on the web site. Sincerely, Yoni Gottlieb _____________________________________________________________________ From: Mekalhalav@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 17:02:04 EDT Subject: Re: Request? To: firstname.lastname@example.org X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 This time around the email from August came through, and I will review all the family information that you have up to this point for Chana Mindel Uri, and will work on filling in as much as I possibly can. As for my own lineage from her, I'd be glad to detail it for you right now: As you already have down, one of the children Chana Mindel Uri and Tzvi (Hersh) Neuman had was Perel (Perri). She was my g-grandmother. Also, as you have down correctly, she perished in the Holacaust. (The Yartzeit we observe for her is 27 Iyar 1944). She was born in Mezalaborce, Hungary in approximatley 1891-5. She married Dovid Klein of Satoraljaujhely, Hungary, who was born in approximatley 1891. They got married in Mezalaborce in approximatley 1911-12. One of those children, the sixth, was Yidel Klein (born Jan. 12, 1923 in Satoraljaujhely, where the family resided until the war). He is my grandfather. Yidel married (to make matters complex) his first cousin, Sara Klein, my grandmother (born in Polgar, Hungary on August 16, 1927). They got married in Satoraljaujhely on April 7, 1946. They lived in Paris for a couple of years after gettin married, while waitng for visas to come to America, and finally moved to the US, and had my mother on February, 28 1949. They then had 3 other children: Moti, Duddi, and Perri respectivley (birthdates for these children, and their children, I'll have to get for you later). Anyway my mother married Eli Gottlieb on March 20, 1979. They had me, Yoni, on February 18, 1980, Moti on May 12, 1984, and Dani on May 31, 1987. My mother's brother Moti married Malka Gross on December 16, 1973, and had Esther, Dovid, Binyomin, Elana, Moshe, and Yakov. My mother next brother Duddi, married Faigie Honig on July 12, 1987, and had Mordechai and Shmuel, My mother's youngest sister, Perri, is not married. I live on the south shore of Long Island. My address is: 44 Arrowhead Lane Lawrence, NY 11559 If you have any questions about the above information, please let me know. Also, let me know if you'd like the future information I give to you in paragraph form or if you can tell me a different format that may be easier to understand. Sincerely, Yoni Gottlieb _____________________________________________________________________
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