The Akiva Langsam Family
Author: David Langsam <DingoNet@compuserve.com> at INTERNET Date: 9/4/97 10:21 PM Priority: Normal TO: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 Subject: Re: Langsam Family Tree ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear Moishe, Thanks for you (nicht langsam) reply. The highest level that I can find of my branch of Langsams is Akiva Langsam of Electoralna 15, Warsaw - and later a nearby street, Zimna. He must have been born no later than around 1850 and probably earlier. He had at least three sons and three daughters David Arieh (1871), Meir, Shlomo, Gitl, Beila and Sara. Sara married a Mr NADEL. Shlomo had a son Moshe who was in Paris and was the editor of the Yiddish newspaper, "Parise Haint" (Paris Today) before the war. Moshe's son Wladek lives in Paris and has at least two sons. David Arieh (1871-1942) married Shoshana Zylbertrest (1873-1942) and seven children Benzion 1895-1976 (Melbourne) married Pola and had one son Isaac; Moshe (1900-1919); Anka (1903-1942) who married Benzion KOHN and had a son Pinchas; Simon -or Ziskind Alexander - (1906-1959) married Esther WOLF in Melbourne and had two children Alan and Sue (KIMMEL); Sara (1907-1912); Lodzia - Leonora leah - (1908-1942) married Mordechai Mietek Zyskind and had a son Marek. Shoshana Zilbertrest was the sister of Ralph Silver (New York), father of Esther HOVEY (UCLA) and Meir Silver (New Jersey). Shoshana had a brother Hersch Zylbertrest whose son Sam (in Paris) has given me a very detailed family tree of his side of the family. "Extensive" is an understatement. Sam married Tamara and had a daughter (also Tamara) with whom I have stayed in Paris and a son Harvey. The youngest child was my father Akiwa Meir (Mark) born in 1915 and thankfully still going strong. Mark married Raya Bak daughter of Shlomo and Ghenia (Shaina Leah GOLDES) born in Odessa 7.11.1917. Shlomo had a very colorful history jumping from the Czar's white army to the Red Army in 1917 becoming a district governor before going to Warsaw in 1921. The son of Isaac Leib Bak, he lived at Gesia 7 in Warsaw but with his wife Ghenia had run factories and businesses in a number of places in Poland. Shlomo had two brothers and two sisters Chiel, Henoch, Faiga (m FRIDMAN) and Hinda (m SCARLAT). Shlomo escaped to Argentina before the war, my mother Raya came to Australia with her brother in law Benzion his wife Pola and little son Isaac and was reunited with her husband of one year, but her sister Ada and mother Ghenia were left behind and murdered by the nazis. Shlomo's brother Chiel had three children Fela (m GRANATMAN, Israel) and have two daughters; and Jacob and Nathan. Henoch's son Wladek (senior officer in Polish army until 1968) married Ola and had two children Andrzej (New York) and Halinka (Melbourne). THE PRESENT GENERATION: In Melbourne, the three surviving sons of David Arieh - Ben Simon and Mark - created a new world with a total of (1+2+3 =6) children; 8 in the next generation (I am the last of the 6 to produce, so more can be expected in the very immediate future) and, so far, four in the next generation. Ben & Pola Isaac married Rita: but no children Simon & Esther (Tusia) Alan married Barbara: two children in their 20s Simon and Julie Sue married Herb Kimmel: Zachary and Lara Mark & Raya Ann married george Fink (Vienna, Melbourne Oxford Edinburgh): Daughter Naomi married Arik Agmon (Israel) daughter Leanne. Son Jerome married Leor SATINOFF (Kibbutz Urim, Negev) sons Josh and Sharon, daughter Yasmin Raya. Victor married Janet Thomas daughter Vanessa and son Ben David married Sally Nicolson no children divorced. Will marry Asheley Jones on New Year's Eve 1997/1998! Planning on many little Langsams (wish me mazel tov!) best wishes hope you can use any or all of this information. David Arieh ben Akiva Meir ---------------------------------------------------------- Author: David Langsam <DingoNet@compuserve.com> at INTERNET Date: 1/18/98 7:02 AM Priority: Normal CC: Moishe Miller at CCSP27B1 TO: helen garrett <email@example.com> at INTERNET CC: "Kate Challis" <firstname.lastname@example.org> at INTERNET CC: Anne Garrow <email@example.com> at INTERNET CC: stuart garrow <firstname.lastname@example.org> at INTERNET CC: fiona gudge <email@example.com> at INTERNET CC: Johanna Johannesson <firstname.lastname@example.org> at INTERNET CC: roger jowell <email@example.com> at INTERNET CC: Agnieszka Kolakowska <AGN@iris.obspm.fr> at INTERNET CC: Yedidyah Langsam <firstname.lastname@example.org> at INTERNET CC: Marc Langsam <email@example.com> at INTERNET CC: Danka Lapkiewicz <firstname.lastname@example.org> at INTERNET CC: julia macmillan <email@example.com> at INTERNET CC: Claire McKelvey <firstname.lastname@example.org> at INTERNET CC: Sani Meo <email@example.com> at INTERNET CC: john montano <firstname.lastname@example.org> at INTERNET CC: "Graeme Mulvey" <email@example.com> at INTERNET CC: "Kate O'Rourke" <firstname.lastname@example.org> at INTERNET CC: rod quinn <email@example.com> at INTERNET CC: David Miles Sheil <firstname.lastname@example.org> at INTERNET CC: raasti stolze <email@example.com> at INTERNET CC: Ivars Sulcs <Ivars_Sulcs@dse.vic.gov.au> at INTERNET CC: Kate Challis+Gary Willis <firstname.lastname@example.org> at INTERNET CC: Saul Zadka <email@example.com> at INTERNET CC: Susan Zucker <Zuckie@AOL.COM> at INTERNET Subject: Our Big Day Out ------------------------------- Message Contents ------------------------------- Dear All, this is a brief account of the wedding for those who couldn't be there on the day. The bad news is that we'll have some vid from the show up on the net in the next few days. Stay tuned. The wedding was fabulous, the day was fabulous (30oC), the food was fabulous: entre - kangaroo, emu and wallaby party pies, cheese & spinach pastries, sushi. mains - kangaroo fillets, chicken drumsticks in thai sauce, grilled baby octopus, salads, spuds and pumpkin dessert - thickest ever richest ever chocolate wedding cake covered in wild berries. It was great. The "bad boys back table" was still raging when Asheley and I went to bed at 4am. And then we went to Brunswick Heads near Byron Bay in the north of New South Wales for an eight day honeymoon. Beach, sun, river, fish, no phones, no email. Yahoo! Below is a little description of events by Steve Brook from an email he sent Rod and Helen. Dear Rod & Helen . . . Meni and I were at the wedding on New Year's Eve of David L. and Asheley J. Since David is no ordinary mortal, and neither, presumably, is his partner, the event had to be quite extraordinary. And so it was. While a professional Marriage Celebrant was there, for he had to be in order to sign the papers, everything else was by Fellini. The ceremony was done by David and Asheley themselves, with no intervention from any kind of state or ecclesiastical authority, though there were nods in the direction of Jewish, Christian and animist beliefs. The couple stood under a Jewish-style chupa, a wedding canopy, held up on sticks by four of the guests. What distinguished this chupa from most others I have seen is that it was made from a keffiyeh, a Palestinian head scarf. The symbolism was overpowering. David began his contribution by thanking the Koori people for the use of their land. He said a great deal else besides, but I did not take notes. One does not do that at weddings. People sang songs, and poetry was recited, including Cavafy's "Ithaka". A great benedictory poem, and I wish I had thought of that for my own two weddings . . . [Meni tells me that this poem was read at Jackie Kennedy's funeral by her bereaved Jewish lover. So it gets around.] Mark, David's father, struggled with the fading light to read a biblical story. Someone helped with a lighted mosquito candle. At a certain point David did the traditional stamping on the wineglass, to mingled shouts of "Good luck!" and "Mazeltov!" The speeches by friends and relations mentioned gay rights, shagging and hope for the future. And messages came from all over, including from the Palestinian Authority's representative in Australia, from John Pilger and from others in all continents. The freshly-married couple did the Wedding Waltz from "The Jolson Story". Some of David's relations looked puzzled. It was an evening that could never be repeated. Meni said to me later that it was the most political wedding she had ever been to. I said that every wedding makes a political statement of some kind, even if the participants are unaware of it. But that was just me, being profound again. We both enjoyed ourselves immensely. Steve Melbourne January 4 1998 ----------------------------------------------------------- From: DingoNet@compuserve.com at INTERNET TO: Moishe Miller Subject: It's a DOCTOR Date: 11/8/98 10:38 AM Asheley Jones and David Langsam (DnA) are ecstatic to announce the birth of their son DR ALEXANDER GEORGE LANGSAM (Dr Alecsander Shlomo ben David Arieh) on November 9, 1998 (0055 Eastern Summer Time, 1355GMT8/11/98) at the Royal Women's Hospital Melbourne, Australia Alex is about 48-50 cms long and weighs about 3.2kg 7.5lb He sends his best regards to all. Mother Son and father are all very very very happy. ______________________________________________________ From: DingoNet@compuserve.com Subject: Chanuka & etc. PostedDate: 12/28/98 05:39:57 PM SendTo: CN=Moishe Miller/OU=PSG/O=Prudential DeliveredDate: 12/28/98 05:40:53 PM Dear Moishe, good to hear from you again. No new Langsams other than the seven week old Alexander George sleeping (momentarily) in the next room. Isn't he enough, already? He is really a very wonderful and totally Langsam boy. Golden red hair, deep dark blue eyes, the Langsam schnoz and lungs and huge feet and hands, so like the rest of us he can work with his hands and be creative with them at the same time - an attribute of all my family. we love him to bits and will make you some more Langsams as soon as we are able to get some sleep in the same time zone. Best regards David Asheley & Alexander ______________________________________________________ From: DingoNet@compuserve.com Subject: Re: Chanuka & etc. PostedDate: 12/29/98 03:20:15 PM SendTo: CN=Moishe Miller/OU=PSG/O=Prudential DeliveredDate: 12/29/98 03:21:56 PM Richard Dawkins gives a definite to that, it's just a matter of how far back. When I met Alex Langsam in Manchester it was really unbelievable. Blue eyes receding witches peak, full ear lobes, BIG lungs, deep booming voice, and very much like my uncle Simon ... whose original name was Alexander! But how do you find a connection with the information we have? Can a DNA test do it - I understand they are horendously expensive. Can my namesake David Langsam who is the deputy boss of IREX give us a lot of money to research this intriguing academic problem? best regards for the new goyisher year, David ___________________________________________________ From: DingoNet@compuserve.com Subject: Re: Chanuka & etc. PostedDate: 12/30/98 01:49:45 AM SendTo: CN=Moishe Miller/OU=PSG/O=Prudential DeliveredDate: 12/30/98 01:50:48 AM Dear Moishe, David Langsam is care of International Research & Exchanges Board (IREX) 1616 H Street, NW Washington, DC 20006 Telephone: (202) 628-8188 Fax: (202) 628-8189 E-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org I think he is vice president or Director of Capital Development or somesuch. Alex Langsam is much harder to contact. He owns hotels in Manchester and Liverpool and has had a number of people claim to be family in order to try to fleece him. It would not surprise me if his response is sceptical. Last I heard he had a very bad case of rheumatoid arthritis and that made his working life very difficult. you can try faxing Manchester 44.161.2367416 or writing to him at: Britannia Hotels Former Fire Station London Road Picadilly Manchester U.K. M1 2PH best of luck David __________________________________________________ From: DingoNet@compuserve.com Subject: Re: Chanuka & etc. PostedDate: 12/30/98 03:46:03 PM SendTo: CN=Moishe Miller/OU=PSG/O=Prudential DeliveredDate: 12/30/98 03:58:50 PM Dear Moishe, That's the best I've got. I have never been in touch with him, only saw his name when I searched my own via AltaVista and noted that he was responsible for handing out large sums of money for research and development of the former Eastern Bloc (where we all come from!) and didn't try to contact him - although a few hundred thousand dollars would not go astray. I WANTED to, but I held back. Decorum. But they have phone numbers so a quick call from NY to DC could be productive. I'd be pleased to be kept informed. Shana Tova shel Gregory. D. ________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------- Forwarded by Moishe Miller/PSG/Prudential on 04/05/99 05:33 PM --------------------------- DingoNet@compuserve.com Monday March 29, 1999 05:19 AM To: Moishe Miller/PSG/Prudential cc: Subject: Pesach & Langsams Ahhh Moishe, you bloody geneologist! I knew that if I included you on my email list of good wishes it would never be the end of it!!! dmlangsa @email.uncc.edu is Deborah Langsam a teacher we have had some minimal communication. mlangsam @surfer.xti.com is Marc an LA graphic artist about my age (45) with his own website. We have emailed each other a few times langsam @fas.harvard.edu is Melissa Rose Langsam who I think is a daughter of Oscar of Rehovot Isrtael and an undergarduate at Harvard who is unfortunately proud of being a Republican, which I discovered in her last email to me and having said what I think of Republicans may never wrote to me again. By the way, I now have a family and geneology page added to my site with link to yours. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dingonet go to the bottom of the page and follow the links. bestest regards for Pesach, David The REAL Langsam are all Communists Socialists Bundists and Labor movement supporters, apart from my cousin Allan, who is a very nice guy but has strayed from the flock. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Author: David Langsam
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