The Charna Rosenbach Family

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Subject:  Langsam
PostedDate:  03/23/99 12:25:32 PM
SendTo:  CN=Moishe Miller/OU=PSG/O=Prudential
DeliveredDate:  03/23/99 12:31:22 PM

Charna Langsam was my great-great grandmother.  She married my great-great
grandfather, Simon Rosenbach.  They both died in Przmysl, Poland.  Charna
died in 1939.  Unfortunately, that is the extent  of my knowledge of 
her.  I
look forward to hearing how we are related and any more information you 
about her or her siblings.


Rama Dunayevich

Rama Dunayevich
Palm Pictures/Manga Entertainment, Inc.


X-Lotus-Fromdomain: PRUDENTIAL
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 09:58:08 -0500
Subject: Langsam

Yedidya Langsam passed on your email's to me. I would like to try and
follow up, or at the very least get your permission to post your email 
my website.It is at
The Langsam portion is at
Would you be able to tell me the highest generation you know, where/when
born, where died, known children, and grandchildren?

Thank you in advance for any effort you can make on this,
-Moishe Miller

Thursday February 17, 2000 12:43 PM
To:   Moishe Miller/PSG/Prudential
Subject:  Charna (nee Langsam) Rosenbach

>Moishe -
>I do not have much more information, but do know that Charna and Simon had
>at least one daughter, Pearl who was born in Krakowitz, Austria and
>Herish Messner.  She died in NY in May of 1963 at the age of 84.  She was
>Hasssidic.  Also, Charna was not born in 1939, that was the year she died,
>I do not know how old she was.  Simon died in 1914.  They both died in
> >>Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:10:00 -0500
> >>From:
> >>Subject: Charna (nee Langsam) Rosenbach
> >>To:
> >>X-Lotus-Fromdomain: PRUDENTIAL
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>Long time no speak. I have not learned anything new yet. Perhaps you
> >>supply a list of Charna and Simon's children (with any married names
> >>daughters)? Also, about how old was Charna in 1939 (ie: when was she
> >>-Moishe Miller
> >>
> >>
> >>
In a conversation of 20 Sept 2001, Rama related:
Rama Dunayevich
507 La Verne Ave
Mill Valley, CA 94941-3400

New Email address:

Czarna Langsam and Simon Rosenbach had a daughter Pearl (Pepy), born in Krakowitz in 1880.
Pearl married Herrish Messner (POW in WW I) and had three kids in Przemysl:
* Osias - a watchmaker, (1903 - 1981); had 1s & 1d; came to USA in 1920
* Nathan (Nisen)- born 1908; deceased, came to USA in 1923
* Edna (Rifka) - born 1910, came to USA in 1923. Living in Monsey today ( I will try to call), 
Her oldest son is Elisha, also in Monsey

From the ship manifests I viewed, there was another child to Czarna and Simon:
Nissen, born 1886. He lived in NYC on 33 Willet St and was married. He was naturalized in 
Supreme Court of NYC on Jan 15? Jan 28? May 14?, 1915 in NY. He travelled on Oct 28, 1921, 
Feb 25, 1922, May 19, 1922, Nov 17, 1922, Mar 31, 1923, Aug 24, 1923, June 24, 1924

Frome, Edna 
59 Robert Pitt Dr Apt A,
Monsey, NY 10952-3116 
Frome, Elias 
5 Maple Ter,
Monsey, NY 10952-2733 
From: "" 
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 08:06:06 -0400
To: Rama Dunayevich 
Subject: Re: More on Przemsyl

Thanks, but what of your own lineage. Is Nathan your grandfather? Does he 
have surviving children? which of his children is your parent?

Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 16:22:21 -0700 
From: Rama Dunayevich  
Subject: Re: More on Przemsyl 
To: ""  
User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 

Sorry, I thought I had already given you that information.

Nathan is my grandfather.  He had two daughters, my aunt Michele Kaufman of 
Las Vegas and my mother Hattie of New York.  I have already pumped them for 
information and they do not know anymore than I do, in fact, unfortunately, 


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I would be very interested to hear from anyone with knowledge or an interest in the Miller family.

Moishe Miller

My home address is
           1374 East 28th Street
           Brooklyn NY 11210-5311

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