---------------------- Forwarded by Moishe Miller/PSG/Prudential on
04/05/99 05:33 PM ---------------------------
DingoNet@compuserve.com
Monday March 29, 1999 05:19 AM
To: Moishe Miller/PSG/Prudential
cc:
Subject: Pesach & Langsams
Ahhh Moishe, you bloody geneologist!
I knew that if I included you on my email list of good wishes it would
never be the end of it!!!
dmlangsa @email.uncc.edu
is Deborah Langsam a teacher we have had some minimal communication.
mlangsam @surfer.xti.com
is Marc an LA graphic artist about my age (45) with his own website. We
have emailed each other a few times
langsam @fas.harvard.edu
is Melissa Rose Langsam who I think is a daughter of Oscar of Rehovot
Isrtael and an undergarduate at Harvard who is unfortunately proud of
being a Republican, which I discovered in her last email to me and having
said what I think of Republicans may never wrote to me again.
By the way, I now have a family and geneology page added to my site with
link to yours.
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dingonet
go to the bottom of the page and follow the links.
bestest regards for Pesach,
David
The REAL Langsam are all Communists Socialists Bundists and Labor
movement
supporters, apart from my cousin Allan, who is a very nice guy but has
strayed from the flock.
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On Mon, 5 Apr 1999 moishe@langsam.com wrote:
Dear Ms.Langsam,
Would it be possible to tell me a little about your family history and
where you "fit" in the scope of things?
Thanks!
-Moishe
moishe@langsam.com
http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/hometree.htm
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From: langsam@fas.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: Pesach & Langsams
PostedDate: 04/05/99 05:41:01 PM
SendTo: CN=Moishe Miller/OU=PSG/O=Prudential
DeliveredDate: 04/05/99 05:40:46 PM
hi there--
before i give you details, do you mind if i ask who you are and why you're
asking? are you a langsam through your mother? putting together a family
tree?
melissa langsam
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"There's a silence, and she says, 'Listen here young lady.
All that matters is what makes you happy.'" ---Liz Phair
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From: langsam@fas.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: Pesach & Langsams
PostedDate: 04/05/99 06:03:58 PM
SendTo: CN=Moishe Miller/OU=PSG/O=Prudential
DeliveredDate: 04/05/99 06:08:35 PM
my name is melissa langsam. i am daughter of david edward langsam, son of
nathan langsam, son of david mordechai langsam. i don't know the name of
that david's father. all of the above mentioned generations have lived in
america. it is through them that i fit into the langsam family tree.
curious you didn't get our illustrious last name. it always makes for a
good laugh when you're with germans...
melissa
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On Mon, 5 Apr 1999 moishe@langsam.com wrote:
Hi,
Was your grandfather Nathan a lawyer, married to Annette? Were his
parents
David and Rose (nee Fruedenfall)?
If not, can you supply some timeframe and where David Mordechai lived
exactly? When he died? How old? Siblings? Do you have any other Langsam
connections I might tap into, even if you do not know how they a re
related?
Thanks for your swift response!
-Moishe
_________________________________________________________
From: langsam@fas.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: Pesach & Langsams
PostedDate: 04/05/99 08:27:59 PM
SendTo: CN=Moishe Miller/OU=PSG/O=Prudential
DeliveredDate: 04/05/99 08:27:48 PM
nathan and annette are my grandparents, he was a lawyer, and his parents
were david and rose. impressive that you have all this info. btw, my
grandmother was a social worker, college grad, early feminist, and a
really brilliant woman.
melissa
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On Mon, 5 Apr 1999 moishe@langsam.com wrote:
Hi,
I have a link at my site to this part of your family. It has more detail.
Check out:
http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller//langsam/saul.htm
Can you find any more info? Any pictures in a scanned format I can add to
the page?
Know any other Langsams?
-Moishe
_________________________________________________________
From: langsam@fas.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: Pesach & Langsams
PostedDate: 04/05/99 09:46:04 PM
SendTo: CN=Moishe Miller/OU=PSG/O=Prudential
DeliveredDate: 04/05/99 09:45:55 PM
i certainly do know other langsams. tell me what holes you have in the
family tree, and i'll see if i can help (or maybe my father could). btw,
is this a hobby for you? (you know, there is a book of this stuff that
we have at home, it's a langsam-spira family tree book. it's very
incomplete on my section of the family though). what do you do for a
living?
melissa
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From: ZoeBethNJ@aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:10:20 EST
Subject: Re: Your entry on Ancestry.com
To: moishe@langsam.com
Dear Moishe
I have one cousin who was married to a Langsam. His name was Nathan Langsam
and he was the son of David Langsam and Rose Freudenfall. If you think there
is a connection please let me know.
Lori Motola
www.motola.com
In a message dated 1/6/2000 9:50:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
moishe@langsam.com writes:
<< Hi,
I saw your tree posted on the Ancestry.com site (via their search engine).
I have an extensive tree of the Langsam family at
www.langsam.com
I was hoping that we might try to find a link between our trees. Would you
be interested in exploring such a possibility?
Thanks!
-Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
>>
_____________________________________________________
Subj: Re: Your entry on Ancestry.com
Date: 1/12/2000 8:57:49 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: moishe@langsam.com (moishe@langsam.com)
To: ZoeBethNJ@aol.com
Hi,
Actually, I found a connection. Check out my website, specifically the page
http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/langsam/saul.htm
Do you have any more than that to add? I would appreciate whatever else you
might know.
Thanks!
-Moishe
_______________________________________________________
From: ZoeBethNJ@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:28:15 EST
Subject: Re: Your entry on Ancestry.com
To: moishe@langsam.com
Moishe
It is indeed a connection. You are connected to me by the marriage of Nathan
Langsam to Annette Kwestel (a cousin to my maternal grandmother). Their son
David would I am sure be very interested to hear from you. He would have
more info on his father's side than I have. I don't have an email address so
please write to him:
David Langsam
336 Lyncroft Rd
New Rochelle, NY 10804
I would be happy to hear if you reunite some family members.
Good luck,
Lori Motola
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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:49:46 -0500 (EST)
From: melissa rose langsam <langsam@fas.harvard.edu>
To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Subject: Re: The Langsam Family
moishe,
i am confused. i can't open "the email from melissa langsam" -- what am i
supposed to find there? what did i send you that would be of interest?
also to help with details: my grandfather, nathan, was one of six boys.
the girl died very young, and there was no harry. (also, if you want to
list the boys in chronological order -- email my father and he'll give
it toyou in order.) oldest is bill, then nat. youngest two are abe and
then phil i believe. i think ben was older than sidney, but ask my dad
(melinsss@aol.com)
it my grandmother
annette who had a brother harry, one named paul, and a sister sara(h?).
who is this dorene doyle? sounds irish, no? i'll have to read on to figure
out who i'm descended form, i've never heard of any of these people before
. . . we definitely need such a chart!
melissa
***************************************
"I need to laugh
And when the sun is out
I've got something I can laugh about."
-- The Beatles, "Good Day Sunshine"
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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:32:41 -0500 (EST)
From: melissa rose langsam <langsam@fas.harvard.edu>
To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Subject: Re: The Langsam Family
annette kwestel is my grandmother! or, she was. she passed away in march,
1997. nathan died (before i was born) in august, 1973. i have never before
heard of doreen. i'll ahve to ask my father about her.
have you looked at "people search" on yahoo? i checked "langsam" once on a
lark, and there were 36 people listed, none of whom i knew, none of my
langsams. i'd never known the name was so popular!
melissa
***************************************
"I need to laugh
And when the sun is out
I've got something I can laugh about."
-- The Beatles, "Good Day Sunshine"
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, moishe@langsam.com wrote:
> Sorry,
> The file your are trying to open is named a .txt file. I will rename it a
> .htm file.
> Doreen Doyle comes from a Kwestel. One of her cousins, Annette Kwestel,
> married Nathan Langsam.
> See another page at:
>
> http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/o/y/Dorene-Doyle/GENE11-0005.html#CHILD21
>
> -Moishe
>
>
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:34:58 -0500 (EST)
From: melissa rose langsam <langsam@fas.harvard.edu>
To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Subject: Re: The Langsam Family
i do indeed know russell and his little brother peter (who's not so
little). no, no chance of an estranged brother. those six were tight!
unlike their children (my father's generation) which isn't so close, but
basically all still live in the new york area. my generation seems even
less cohesive emotionally and geographically.
ah, south street seaport is a lot of fun.:) i'm in boston for the time
being, not sure when i'll next be in new york. it might be useful for your
project (and general interest) to meet the rest of my family though. my
parents are both in new rochelle, and my father tends to go into manhattan
for meetings about once a week.
hope this helps,
melissa rose langsam
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, moishe@langsam.com wrote:
> Hi,
> Ignore my last email. I was confused. Anyhow, I found another cousin of
> yours. Do you know Russell Langsam? He's your great-uncle's (Phillipp)
> grandson.
> As for there being no Harry, could he just have been estranged from the
> family? The Langsam-Spira book does mention it. Any chance? I will email
> your father.
> Thanks!!!
> -Moishe
>
> PS: Ever in Manhattan? I work by South Street Seaport (computers).
>
____________________________________________________________________
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:51:46 -0500 (EST)
From: melissa rose langsam <langsam@fas.harvard.edu>
To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Subject: Re: The Langsam Family
sidney married pauline, they had two sons david mordechai and ira. neither
one ever married, but david has an adopted son, also a peter langsam.
(this peter is colombian and catholic). i think david actually also
legally changed his name, and may have even become catholic in the last
few years.
i have no idea about anyone going back farther than my grandfather's
generation. all i know about my father's grandfather david (besides his
being my father's namesake) is that he was a buttonhole maker in new york,
was really into baseball, pretty lenient about his orthodoxy.
melissa
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, moishe@langsam.com wrote:
> What became of Sidney? Any kids?
> Also, if you go up one more generation, to your great-grandfather, David,
> there were quite a few siblings. Do you know anything about them? Lastly,
> do you know where in Europe (town or city) David's father (Isaac) came from
> in 1886, when he came to the USA?
> -Moishe
>
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:39:04 -0500 (EST)
From: melissa rose langsam <langsam@fas.harvard.edu>
To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Subject: Re: The Langsam Family
the only other langsams i've had any contact with: david langsam in
australia (still a hippy, close to my parents age, a writer with a son
named george alexander). dan langsam (at columbia, i gather you recently
met him) and the langsams in israel who send out the langsam family
newsletter, i was supposed to visit them when i was there in august, it
didn't work out though. no idea about anyone else. yahoo people search
lists a lot of us though. nudge people over email to give you info, maybe
you'll find some of the missing pieces . . .
mL
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:51:58 -0500 (EST)
From: melissa rose langsam <langsam@fas.harvard.edu>
To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Subject: Re: The Langsam Family
all the photo albums are at home (in new york) and my sister (who's at
princeton) is in charge of all photo stuff, the sort of unofficial fam
photog, so best to ask nina (sis) or sandy (mom).
melissa
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:48:45 -0500 (EST)
From: melissa rose langsam <langsam@fas.harvard.edu>
To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Subject: Re: The Langsam Family
read about our brainy cousin i.i. rabi at nobelprizes.com
there's another relative for us!:)
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From: Melinsss@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 13:44:32 EST
Subject: Re: I. I. Rabi
To: moishe@langsam.com
call me at work 914 722-5221. we can introduce ourselves. always happy to
meet distant relatives.
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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:30:59 -0500 (EST)
From: melissa rose langsam <langsam@fas.harvard.edu>
To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Subject: Re: The Langsam Family
i'm not entirely sure, my father would know. it definitely exists though
-- got a cousin into columbia!
mL
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:33:40 -0500 (EST)
From: melissa rose langsam <langsam@fas.harvard.edu>
To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com>
Subject: Re: The Langsam Family
moishe,
i'm confused about who you mean by "us"--? what hospital is this? and if
you don't mind my asking, why do you take your daughter to the hospital
every tuesday? how old is she?
my sister (nina, freshman at princeton) is a pre-med. she's been spending
her intersession interning at a hospital down in new brunswick. she seems
to find it very inspiring. the nathan langsam generation -- the bros were
essentially all doctors and lawyers. today would actually be my
grandfather's 97th birthday.
shabbat shalom!
melissa rose langsam
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:37:40 -0500
From: nina langsam
Organization: Princeton University
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
To: "moishe@langsam.com"
Subject: Re: Pictures
Hi,
yes, i am the photographer. My parents have most of our pictures at home
though. I can ask them to send some to you--what is your mailing address?
thanks,
Nina
"moishe@langsam.com" wrote:
> Hi,
> Your sister tell's me you are the keeper of the family pictures. I am a
> distant cousin working on a family tree. Our website is at
> www.langsam.com
> I have an extensive photographic collection spanins over 90 years. AS small
> amount of the pictures (about 40) are available on my website. Do you have
> any old or new pictures you can scan or that I can borrow (just to
> color-xerox), to add to what I already have?
> Also, meet any Langsam's outside of your own known family?
> -Moishe Miller
> moishe@langsam.com
>
> At 11:24 PM 1/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >yup! she's nlangsam@princeton.edu
> >
> >what's your daughter's name? i was like that too. i didn't gain any weight
> >for a while after i was born. i suppose, if you wanted to compare parents'
> >notes, you might contact my mother--?
> >
> >shavua tov,
> >melissa
> >
> >
> >
> > ***************************************
> > "I need to laugh
> > And when the sun is out
> > I've got something I can laugh about."
> > -- The Beatles, "Good Day Sunshine"
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, moishe@langsam.com wrote:
> >
> > > Does sis have an email at princeton?
> > >
> > >
> > > At 11:51 PM 1/19/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >all the photo albums are at home (in new york) and my sister (who's at
> > > >princeton) is in charge of all photo stuff, the sort of unofficial fam
> > > >photog, so best to ask nina (sis) or sandy (mom).
> > > >
> > > >melissa
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 16:03:17 -0500
From: Suzan Wynne
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-RR010799 (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
To: "moishe@langsam.com"
Subject: Re: "H-9" Langsam Question.
Moishe, I would assume that the person who authorized the tombstone knew what
the man's name was AND that since the family member knew his name to be Shaje
that this is likely to be more accurate than what we had.
I had a call via Yedidyah from Simcha Langsam from Boro Park last weekend. I
finally connected with him last night. He says that his family has a book
without the section covering L2. He is the son of Moishe Langsam....I'm not
sure if he is from the first or second marriage. In any event, he's all
excited and wants to provide more information and to correct some errors. He
couldn't talk long and will call me back for a longer conversation. I think
that after sending him a book, I will suggest that he call you. Suzan
"moishe@langsam.com" wrote:
> OK. To further complicate things, the copy of the tombstone I saw, states
> in Hebrew that Esther's father's name Yeshaya.
> Talk to you after the weekend.
> -Moishe
>
> At 08:04 PM 1/31/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >Moishe, I've just returned from a 5 day trip to see my daughter and
> >son-in-law in LA. Don't have time to focus on this issue this week. I'll
> >try to get to it over the weekend. Suzan
> >
> >"moishe@langsam.com" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > On page 16 of the "Update I", dated Nov 1988, under H9, its states that
> > > Esther Jacobs was another daughter to Isaac.
> > > I received a letter from a descendant stating that Esther's father was
> > > Shaje, as per the death certificate.
> > > Can you verify the H9 claim? Is it a typo in the update?
> > > Thanks!
> > > -Moishe
> > >
> > > PS: Either of you come across any H data you care to share?
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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 20:05:42 -0500
From: Suzan Wynne
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-RR010799 (Win98; I)
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To: "Miller, Moishe"
Subject: [Fwd: Langsam's]
Moishe,
I thought you should see this before thinking you would have a "live
one." Dan had no New Yorkers in his immediate line and I can't imagine
why he would want to work through all the complexities of the various
New York resources to research a family which might not even be
related. I didn't do any New York research to speak of. That was
Estelle's contribution. You can deduce which records she saw by the
information she collected for the H branches. I'm sorry I can't be any
more helpful with this but I just don't have time to consider the issue.
Suzan
From: "Daniel Langsam"
To: "Suzan Wynne"
Subject: RE: Langsam's
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 21:43:54 -0500
Suzan,
I'm so sorry that I didn't get back to you earlier, but I really want to
thank you for the information that you sent me. I was happy to see both
familiar and new names on the tree, particularly my great-grandfather's; as
I'd mentioned, neither my father nor his sister was aware of it. My parents
also recall some names of relatives that don't seem to fit in anywhere--
when I get some time (or 'if', the way things have been going), I will try
to trace them down and figure it out. I hope that you are doing well and
haven't been hit too hard by the weather... Moi, I just began a fresh batch
of classes and got a new job working in a lab, so I've been keeping quite
busy, but I'm enjoying it. Anyway, I will keep you posted if I find
anything new about the maverick cousins. Take care...
-Dan
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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 20:24:15 -0500
From: Suzan Wynne
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-RR010799 (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
To: "moishe@langsam.com"
Subject: Re: "H-9" - one more thing....
Moishe, I think you are making some assumptions that I really must address
clearly. I did not develop the H section. Estelle Guzik did. She researched
various New York sources....wills, court records, naturalizations, birth, marriage
and death. Gradually, she fed Michael Cohen or me the information that she
gathered. It was placed on the computer by Michael. Sometimes Estelle was able to
make connections by piecing things together when she got to a cemetery and found
people buried next to each other. Sometimes the records themselves revealed family
connections. Sometimes they didn't.
When they didn't make the connections, Estelle didn't go beyond what she knew from
records. In a very few cases, we were able to find living people connected to a
tree and went from there to gather more information. In the years preceding and
following the book's publication, I developed inforamtion from Galician records,
both from mail and on the ground during my visit there. Estelle was with me and
she participated in this collection process. We had no idea how people were related
to the main tree....or if. We merely went on the basis of the Langsam name.
After the book came out, I wrote to a couple of places in New York and gathered
some 1915 and 1925 New York census records that supplemented some 1880, 1900 and
1920 Federal census records. The resulting information didn't help much.
When the book was published, a small number of H families got hold of me or Michael
or Yedidyah and provided some additional information. Daniel's family continues to
surface from time to time with scraps of information but those who really knew
anything are all gone now and I think we are at the end of the trail there. Even
Daniel's parents knew less than was in the book!
Finally, the process of finding additional information will almost certainly have
to come from people who are alive. There simply are no records for any of the
towns where family lived. New York and other US records may be able to help us
make connections but I'm convinced that we will learn very little of value. I'm
not impressed with the knowledge of any of the people you contacted the other year
through the internet.
Meanwhile, the main body of the family is pretty well finished. There are issues
to be resolved with respect to L2 and L4. I think that this is where we should put
our energies but of course, Yedidyah is still not thrilled with confronting the
issue and I don't see how the book can move forward with so little.
There is no ...repeat...no evidence that any of the H fragments are related to the
main body of the tree...we have no one aware of their connection to Pesach or the
Spiras. We have nothing except the Langsam name and some hazy beliefs that we must
be related because of the name. I've spent a lot of hours poring over the H
sections instead of focusing on my own branch and I'm wondering why I've done
that. I need to rethink my priorities with respect to the tree and the overall
project.
Back to H9: the family involving Esther Jacobs has never been cooperative in
providing information or responding to letters. I don't know how it was concluded
that Isaac was involved.
Suzan
"moishe@langsam.com" wrote:
> ...to think of over the weekend. I just received another email from another
> Jacob telling of Willy, Nat, and Phil, cousins or brothers to Esther
> Jacobs. Esther was born 1870, so the question that comes to mind is, how do
> you know the David + Rose listed in H9 were from Isaac. Can the David be a
> different David? Same for Abraham? Maybe they are from Yeshaya (Shjia)?
> -Moishe
>
> At 04:03 PM 2/2/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >Moishe, I would assume that the person who authorized the tombstone knew what
> >the man's name was AND that since the family member knew his name to be Shaje
> >that this is likely to be more accurate than what we had.
> >
> >I had a call via Yedidyah from Simcha Langsam from Boro Park last weekend. I
> >finally connected with him last night. He says that his family has a book
> >without the section covering L2. He is the son of Moishe Langsam....I'm not
> >sure if he is from the first or second marriage. In any event, he's all
> >excited and wants to provide more information and to correct some errors. He
> >couldn't talk long and will call me back for a longer conversation. I think
> >that after sending him a book, I will suggest that he call you. Suzan
> >
> >"moishe@langsam.com" wrote:
> >
> > > OK. To further complicate things, the copy of the tombstone I saw, states
> > > in Hebrew that Esther's father's name Yeshaya.
> > > Talk to you after the weekend.
> > > -Moishe
> > >
> > > At 08:04 PM 1/31/00 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >Moishe, I've just returned from a 5 day trip to see my daughter and
> > > >son-in-law in LA. Don't have time to focus on this issue this week. I'll
> > > >try to get to it over the weekend. Suzan
> > > >
> > > >"moishe@langsam.com" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > On page 16 of the "Update I", dated Nov 1988, under H9, its states that
> > > > > Esther Jacobs was another daughter to Isaac.
> > > > > I received a letter from a descendant stating that Esther's father was
> > > > > Shaje, as per the death certificate.
> > > > > Can you verify the H9 claim? Is it a typo in the update?
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > -Moishe
> > > > >
> > > > > PS: Either of you come across any H data you care to share?
_________________________________________________________
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 21:08:45 -0500
From: Suzan Wynne
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-RR010799 (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
To: "Miller, Moishe"
Subject: H 9 & 1
Moishe,
I apologize. I know you are just responding to what 's coming into you
and you are trying to be helpful to people. I can't tell you how
irritating it is for me this many years later to have to go over all
this old ground. But I will try.
H 1 and H9 are probably closely related. Either Isaac and Mendel were
brothers or otherwise closely related. They lived very close together
at some point. There is much to suggest that they are related. A number
of years ago, Ruby Jacobs called me to say that she had seen the book
somewhere. She wanted to tell me that we had forgotten Isaac and
Gittel's (H9) daughter Esther who married a man named Jacobs. She
couldn't remember her father in law's first name (?????Excuse me???).
Ruby's husband was Esther's son, Irving. Irving was said to be named
after his grandfather, Isaac. He was deceased. She gave me a phone
number but when I tried it at a later point, it was no longer good. She
had some additional information about David's son, Sidney. Sidney's
wife was named Pauline. She also said that Sarah had married a Blasberg
and they had two sons: Sylvan and Harold. I had addresses but neither
answered a letter. I had Harold Blasberg's phone number in Valley
Stream but I doubt that I ever called him.
Sidney, by the way, was still living in 1999: 80 E. Hartsdale,
Hartsdale, NY 10530. 914 761-1689.
I have Phillip Langsam's Brooklyn death certificate which gives his
parents as David L. and Rose nee Freudenfall. The information came from
Nathan, brother and the burial is at New Montefiore in Pinelawn. Issac
and Gittel were in the census with some children in 1900. See the page
in the book. I know that Estelle found all sorts of wills and
naturallization records about members of this family. I found a record
about Abraham's son, Paul, who was the subject of an ugly court case as
his parents were divorcing. In that record, it was revealed that he was
retarded. And then, I found a note about his death.
Turning to H1: it is possible that Esther Jacob was on Mendel's tree,
not on Isaac's. Ruby Jacobs didn't know anything except that her
husband had been related to all of these fancy doctors and lawyers. She
was the one who told me that Irving was related to them and I accepted
her information at face value.
H1 folks know next to nothing about their family history. And, by the
way, could care less. I've been in touch with many people from H1 over
the years. But, there is no Yeshaya that I know of in their family
history.
As to Yeshaya: Just because a man's name was Isaac as his street name
in New York doesn't mean his Hebrew name was not Yeshaya. Isaac Yeshaya
even. But for sure the father in H9 was in the 1900 census as Isaac.
And in the records of his children as they died.
There are many Shaye's in the Langsam family. The question is where
does he fit with the people whom you have knocking at your door. Make
them work a little....like documenting their own family history. Don't
assume that we have information about them. There are many Langsams
about whom we have nothing. They may not be IN THE BOOK!
Suzan
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:20:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: melissa rose langsam
To: Undisclosed recipients: ;
Subject: onto the next adventure!
dear wonderful people,
thank you for making the last four years so memorable. please keep in
touch, wherever your travels take you!
i will be in cambridge, mass. for another few days before heading home to
new york to pack up for the next leg of the journey, namely austin,
texas. i'll be working in the press office for the bush presidential
campaign for the next few months.
after that, i expect to be in israel -- at hebrew u, studying hebrew lit
and trying to transform my thesis into a publishable book (keep your
fingers crossed for me!)
if you plan to be in either austin or jerusalem, be sure to let me know!
i do not yet have an address and phone number to pass along, but i can be
reached at mrlangsam@yahoo.com, and i have registered for
langsam@post.harvard.edu, which should forward my messages forever more.
wishing everyone a relaxing summer and a super next year!
mL
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On the internet are the pages from:
DORENE (KIMBERLY) DOYLE
6174 LAWRENCE ROAD
LANTANA, FL 33462-2140
United States
g8rtj@aol.com
Report Section:
Dorene Doyle - InterneTree
User Home Page Genealogy Report: Descendants of Soloman Goodson Doyle
The home page is at:
This is an excerpt:
21. ANNETTE5 KWESTEL (ABRAHAM SHRAGA4, ISAAC3, ISRAEL2, YEHUDA LEIB1)17 was born 1909 in Brooklyn, NY17, and died March 01, 199717. She married NATHAN LANGSAM17 193517.
Children of ANNETTE KWESTEL and NATHAN LANGSAM are:
| 50. | i. | DAVID6 LANGSAM, b. June 23, 1945, Brooklyn, NY. | |
| ii. | SARA LEE LANGSAM17, b. January 23, 194017. |
| i. | MELISSA7 LANGSAM17, b. October 03, 1978, New York, NY17. | ||
| ii. | NINA LANGSAM17, b. August 16, 1981, New York, NY17. |
I would be very interested to hear from anyone with knowledge or an interest in the Miller family.
Moishe Miller
1374 East 28th Street
Brooklyn NY 11210-5311
USA
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