From: RAMBAM4U222@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:11:11 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows CA sub 92 dear moishe my great grand mothers maiden name was Rachel Langsam i know we are dependence of the Biney Yisaschar ..and as well as Reb Zushe Meanipoli and Reb Elimelech Milizensk who where uncles of the Biney Yisaschar if this is the same family please let me know ______________________________________________________ Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 21:23:24 -0400 To: RAMBAM4U222@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com"Page 1 of manifestSubject: Langsam Family Hi, Thanks for your inquiry. Based on your note, we are definitely family. I would be interested in exploring your exact connection with Pesach Langsam, father of the Bnei Yissochur. You may find our website www.langsam.com of interest. Please elaborate on your ancestry. -Moishe Miller moishe@langsam.com ______________________________________________________ From: RAMBAM4U222@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:42:10 EDT Subject: Re: Langsam Family To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows CA sub 92 The most i know with out major research is, her father was Mier Langsam and her mother i think was Ita Faiga please let me know if you know any connections. thank you and good shabbos ______________________________________________________ Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 07:01:04 -0400 To: RAMBAM4U222@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Langsam Family Research Hi, Thanks for your response. Based on your data, I am having difficulty connecting you. Since you know you connect to the Bnei Yissochur, we must be related. Have you had a chance to review the website at www.langsam.com or the specific pages on the Langsam family at http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/langsam/homelang.htm Can you provide some more detail. When did Rachel, your great grand mother live (how old was she? when did she pass away? when was she born)? Where did she live? What was Rachel, your great grand mother's married name (family name)? Did Meir and Ita Faiga have other children? Where did they live? Can you tell me YOUR name? -Moishe Miller Brooklyn NY moishe@langsam.com ______________________________________________________ From: RAMBAM4U222@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:02:13 EDT Subject: Re: Langsam Family Research To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows CA sub 92 i would like to call you if i can get your number via e-mail it not so easy for me yes i looked at the family tree , that is how i found you if you can e-mail your phone muner i would love to call you and tell you what i know chanoch nelken ______________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 03:57:47 -0400 To: RAMBAM4U222@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Langsam Family Research Dear Chanoch, Is this him? JACK LANGSAM SSN 561-38-3244 Residence: 94102 San Francisco, San Francisco, CA Born 8 May 1902 Died 2 Oct 1995 Issued: CA (Before 1951) If so, a standard letter to the Social Security Administration is below. This letter may be printed and mailed to the Social Security Administration to request a copy of your ancestor's SS-5 form. The Social Security Administration charges $7.00 for each individual copy. Social Security Administration Office of Earnings Operations FOIA Workgroup 300 N. Greene Street P.O. Box 33022 Baltimore, Maryland 21290 Re: Freedom of Information Act Request Dear Freedom of Information Officer, I am writing this request under the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. Section 552. I hereby request a copy of the SS-5, Application for Social Security Card, for the following individual: LANGSAM, JACK 561-38-3244 Birth: 8 May 1902 Death: 2 Oct 1995 This individual is deceased, having been listed in the Social Security Administration's Death Master File. I understand the fee for this service is $7.00 when the Social Security Number is provided. Included is a check for $______ made out to the Social Security Administration to cover any administrative costs required by this request. Please respond to my request upon receipt of this initial correspondence. Thank you for your attention and assistance. Sincerely, Address: Daytime Phone Number: ______________________________________________________ From: BLS9@aol.com Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:38:29 EDT Subject: From Brian Schwartz To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 Hi Moishe, The person you want to talk to is my sister, Marti. She lives in Beaverton Oregon, and I'm sure would like to talk to you. Her phone # is ***-***-****. Hope this helps. Brian _____________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:16:13 -0400 To: tcconsumer@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Fwd: From Brian Schwartz Hi, Norm Scheiner recommended that I get in touch with you. I am a distant cousin working on our LANGSAM family tree. Norm mentioned that you had contacted him several years back trying to find out some more information. Do you know what your LANGSAM connection is? There is a website devoted to our family at www.langsam.com -Moishe Miller Brooklyn NY moishe@langsam.com ______________________________________________________ From: READRR@aol.com Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 13:48:18 EDT Subject: Schwartz/Langsam connection To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Moishe, My name is Marti Schwartz. I am Brian Schwartz's sister. He forwarded your email on to me. I don't know where the Schwartz's and Langsam's are related. I know that Saul Langsam is a cousin in some way, but I don't know from where. Any information you have would be appreciated. If you need any Schwartz info...I may have that. Marti Schwartz TCConsumer@aol.com (503)524-5190 ______________________________________________________ Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 01:52:00 -0400 From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Sinai Cemetery Bcc: tangun@ix.netcom.com, DLKURTZ@ix.netcom.com, merubin@aol.com, marc.seidenfeld@hints.com Hi, I have a relative, Jacob LANGSAM, who has his final resting place in Sinai Cemetery (March 20, 1949). Do you know what information the cemetery might have on hand? I called them but they asked that I write a letter requesting the information I want. I want whatever they have. I also checked the web and found a website that will send certified death records for $10, but without supplying ALL the information (on VS-112), it can take much longer than the minimum 3 MONTHS! Any recommendations or insight would be welcome and appreciated. Perhaps you might be interested in a barter arrangement? I work next to a vital records building in NY city: State Supreme Court Municpal Archives 31 Chambers Street 7th Floor Tu & Th, 9 - 5 (212) 374 - 4376 I am also near Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn, NY. -Moishe Miller Brooklyn NY moishe@langsam.com www.langsam.com ______________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2001 01:50:54 -0400 To: homesbyanna@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Did you ever hear of... a person called "the uncle", possibly a brother to Mayer Langsam, your g-gf, or his grandaughter, Rose Langsam? -Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: HOMESBYANA@aol.com Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 13:39:10 EDT Subject: Re: Did you ever hear of... To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Yes I know of Rose Langsam. I believe she lived or lives in San Rafael. Saul Langsam or Norm with whom you spoke the other week will know more about her. I remember meeting her but I was young and she seemed very old to me. I am sorry I did not have a chance to return your call the other day. I had returned from vacation and cannot seem to catch up on all my work. Saul should knwo more about her because of the age difference among us. I am going to be 50 this year and Saul is in his mid seventies. Also Rose lived pretty close to where Saul used to live. I remember my father speaking of Rose Langsam as a cousin. Regards, Anna Solomon ______________________________________________________ From: MERUBIN@aol.com Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:59:43 EDT Subject: Jacob LANGSAM burial info To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 76 Moishe, I just went to Sinai Chapel, and they photocopied the page for Jacob Langsam. I'll put it in the mail to you at 1374 E. 28th, Brooklyn. You'd probably like to know what it says, so: Date of birth: abt. 1863 Birthplace: Poland Name of Father: Israel Maiden name of Mother: Gedal ? Birthplace of Mother: Poland In California: 13 years In U.S. : 39 years Informant : Paul Langsam Widowed Wife: Dora Paul Langsam made the burial arrangements. No other survivors listed. There was no newspaper notice. Shabbat shalom, Marian Rubin ______________________________________________________ From: Malkataw@aol.com Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 21:59:32 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Hi, I am Marsha Nohl, formerly Marsha Langsam. I was very pleased to get your telephone call. I can best be reached via e-mail, especially due to the 3 hour difference in time. I am going to review your site. You can write back to me at Malkataw@aol.com Can you tell me about yourself? What you do, how old are you, etc. I am 54 (almost) married and a Mom of two boys. I have 5 grandchildren, 3 of my and 2 from my husband's side of the family. I am a licensed psychotherapist working in a non profit counseling agency. Thats the brief story. Write back. Marsha ______________________________________________________ From: Malkataw@aol.com Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 22:42:59 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Hi, This is Marsha Langsam Nohl writing again. I wanted to let you know that my parents and grandparents have passed. You have my grandfathers passing - Morris Langsam of San Francisco, CA. I don't know the date that my grandmother passed - her name was Minnie Langsam , S.F., and I don't know her maiden name. I will try to find out. My parents, Leah (Sweder) Langsam and Fred Langsam met in New York and married in Reno, Nevada. My Mother passed away on January 20, 2000. She passed away in San Diego, CA My Father, Fred, passed away February 26, 2001, in Rohnert Park, CA. I live, with my present husband, in Sacramento, CA. I have two sons Matthew and Justin. My Dad had a sister, who had two children. My cousins between them have 3 children and 5 grandchildren. I will get everyones permission to forward names, etc. I have an uncle Saul Langsam who is still married and he has two kids and I don't know how many grandchildren. I have a brother who has two children and one of those kids is married and has a set of twins. As I said I will get everyones permission to forward their names and locations Good Job Moishe Marsha ______________________________________________________ From: Malkataw@aol.com Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 10:54:39 EDT Subject: Re: Sol Langsam To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Hi Moishe, Sol is someway related to Sylvia. Interesting that you ask how. I was trying to find that out earlier this year. I spoke to my aunt (Morris' daughter) and she could not tell me. Everyone thought a different story. No one can remember a husband or a father of Sol. I will try to contact him and get permission to send you family information or give you his address. The relatives that I know of were Jack Langsam - Never Married; Sam Langsam, Irving Langsam - Married w/one son - sons whereabouts unknown, Sylvia Langsam, Sol Langsam, the "two Rosies" -. All of these people are dead now except for Sol. They all lived in the San Francisco and general Bay Area in Ca. Then of course there is my immediate family Fred, Lee (Sweder) Langsam and their children: Robert & wife Marsha & 1st husband Allan their children Justin & wife Brandie their two sons Mathew and 1st wife Leah one daughter Marsha married Less - 2nd Husb Matthew to Marry Monie 02 I am e-mailing my brother and will give him your e mail address and ask him to pass on info to Sol. I will do the same with my cousins. Marsha ______________________________________________________ From: TCConsumer@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:23:15 EDT Subject: Re: Langsam Tree To: moishe@langsam.com Moishe, Just got back into town, I leave again this weekend. I've got some information for you though (I was down at my folks). My GreatGrandmother's maiden name was Langsam. She was Carl, Aaron, etc.'s mom. I've got other names etc., but right now I'm fighting to get caught up with my work. I'll try to call before I leave this weekend, if I don't make it, I'll call you the first week of August. Marti Ann Schwartz The Consummate Consumer Phone/Fax: (503) 524-5190 Website: www.TCConsumer.com E-mail: TCConsumer@aol.com ______________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 18:48:30 -0400 To: TCConsumer@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Langsam Tree Hi, Thanks so much for your effort. I appreciate it. I will be out of town from Aug 5 - 19. Could you find out her name (your great-grandmother), as well as any other siblings she may have had besides Mark Langsam? Also, where does Stan Henerson fit in this picture? Enjoy your trip! -Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: moishe@langsam.com To: Roland Einhorn Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Family tree Hi, Thank you very much for your inquiry. I would be very interested in trying to expand upon what we already know. First of all, this is the family outline that I have for you immediate family. Please provide any additional corrections. I included Charlie's family outline below yours. Perhaps you can either pass along his email address or have him contact me. Chana Frimer comes from Osias, brother to Frank. I would be most interested in trying to take your families back further and connecting you to Charlie, as well as my own family. Happy New Year! Moishe Miller moishe@langsam.com ______________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:44:47 -0400 To: Roland Einhorn From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Family tree Can you ask Charlie if you can give me his email address? Moishe At 07:02 PM 9/1/02 -0400, you wrote: Dear Moishe, Thank you so much for sending the information. I will review it and send a copy of Charlie's family tree to him. Happy New Year, Roland ______________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:30:23 -0400 From: Roland Einhorn Subject: Re: Family tree To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Dear Moishe, Charlie's e-mail address is: samlang@aol.com . Roland ______________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:06:49 -0400 To: samlang@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Fwd: Re: Family tree Hi, I am an amateur genealogist researching my family history. Pesach Langsam (1748 - 1820) had several children, the oldest one never having adopted the surname LANGSAM (but rather Miller, from whom I descend). Would you perhaps be interested in exploring a possible connection to the original Pesach Langsam? I have a website with a fair amount of detail on his descendents. It is at www.langsam.com I think your specific branch can be found at http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/langsam/isrel-h4.htm I look forward to your response. -Moishe Miller moishe@langsam.com ______________________________________________________ From: Samlang@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:37:48 EDT Subject: Re: Family tree To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 Dear Moist: Thank you so much for the information about my family tree. There were a few mistakes: My father, Mark Langsam had 8 brothers and sisters. I only know the name of the youngest brother, Mendel Langsam. All of this brothers and sisters died in the holocaust except for Mendel who went to Palestine in 1938 and died in Israel in 1983. My father, Mark, married my mother, Ida in 1944 in Vienna, Austria and came to the U.S. in 1947. My mother, Ida died in 1983 but was buried in San Francisco, not in Israel. My father died in 1986 and was buried in Los Angeles. If you have any more information about my family tree I would greatly appreciate it. Best regards, Charley Langsam ______________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:09:28 -0400 To: Samlang@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Family tree Hi, Thanks so much for your response. I do have some more data on your family. Firstly, via Mayer's death records, we found that his father (your great-grandfather) was named Israel. Also, I still have some loose ends. There is a Henderson connection that I have not been able to pin down. Some descendents own a restaurant of sorts in California. I would like to follow up more on your branch. Do you know more about your father's first family that perished? Any names or old pictures? Do you know any detail on your own grandfather? Did your uncle Mendel have any children? If so, do you have the name or address of a person I can contact in their tree to try and fill in some more? Do you know any more about Chaim's siblings or other Langsam's that you know are related to you, even if you do not know how? Any detail on Israel, Chaim's father? Thanks so much for your response and time, Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: Samlang@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:08:13 EDT Subject: Re: Family tree To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 Dear Moishe-- Thank you so much for the family tree information. As to your questions: I am born in San Francisco in 1949. I think that the Hendersons are spelled Henersons. There are two relatives, Stanley and James who live in California. Their parents were Morris and Gladys Henerson. Morris died several years ago. I don't know about Gladys. My uncle, Mendel had no children and was never married. Also my father, Mark Langsam had 2 daughters who died in the holocaust but they were born before 1942. My mother, Ida Langsam's maiden name was Goldwater. Her first husband's last name was Diller. He also died in the holocaust. I don't have much more information but would greatly appreciate more information about the Langsam family tree. Best regards, Charley Langsam ______________________________________________________ Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 22:27:27 -0400 To: Samlang@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Family tree Hi, Thanks again for the feedback. I can try to get you a copy of the original book published in 1986. Also, can you tell me how Morris and Gladys Henerson were related to you? IF not, can you put me in touch with someone that knows more about them? Thanks! Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: Samlang@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 11:20:08 EDT Subject: Re: Family tree To: moishe@langsam.com Hi Gladys Henerson was my father's (Mark's) first cousin. She was married to Morris Henerson who dies a few years ago. Best regards and thanks for all the family tree information. Charley Langsam ______________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:02:56 -0400 To: Samlang@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Family tree Thanks. As an FYI, from the Social Security Death Index, I find one entry: MORRIS HENERSON SSN 117-10-7856 Residence: 94612 Oakland, Alameda, CA Born 28 Oct 1906 Last Benefit: Died Oct 1985 Issued: NY (Before 1951) I will try and track them down to find out which sibling of your grandfather they come from. I will keep you posted. I really appreciate your patience with me. Also, Marti Ann Schwartz, a cousin of yours, asked that if I ever "find" you, to let her know. In deference to your privacy, would you like me to, or would you prefer not? To make it easy for you, if you do not respond, I will assume you prefer that I do not. Be well! Moishe ______________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:06:35 -0400 To: TCConsumer@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Henerson Hi, Do you have a contact for Gladys Henerson? Is she still alive? What about her son Stan? Moishe ______________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:08:43 -0400 To: TCConsumer@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: No Gladys... I see that she passed. I am sorry. So now Stan is our only hope. How can I contact him? GLADYS HENERSON SSN 556-06-2051 Residence: 94610 Oakland, Alameda, CA Born 23 Dec 1905 Last Benefit: Died 28 Mar 2000 Issued: CA (1971) ______________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:10:50 -0400 To: TCConsumer@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Stan Henerson? Is this him? If you know him, can you ask him ONE question? What was Gladys' parents names? Stan Henerson 495 J St Arcata, CA 95521-6125 (707)822-3442 Thanks! Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: TCConsumer@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:46:12 EDT Subject: Re: Henerson To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 I do not know either of those people Marti Ann Schwartz The Consummate Consumer Phone/Fax: (661) 254-5839 Website: www.TCConsumer.com E-mail: TCConsumer@aol.com ______________________________________________________ From: TCConsumer@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:48:01 EDT Subject: Re: Stan Henerson? To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 Moishe, I'm out of town until next Sunday (in Portland promoting my new book, Lessons Learned From Cancer), but I'll call Stan when I return and let you know. Marti Marti Ann Schwartz ______________________________________________________ From: Samlang@aol.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:24:15 EDT Subject: Re: Family tree To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 Dear Moishe I would very much like to know the connection with my grandfather and Gladys Henerson (She was married to Morris Henerson and is the Langsam cousin.) It is ok for you to give my e-mail address to Marti Schwartz. She can get in touch with you. Thank you for all your work and information about the Langsam family tree. Stay well and best regards, Charley Langsam ______________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:23:50 -0400 From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Former Congregant? Bcc: templeoffice@oaklandsinai.org , office@bjc-oak.org, President@tbaoakland.org, RabbiBloom@tbaoakland.org Hi, I am trying to find out more about the common ancestry I share with a distant cousin of mine, who has passed on. Her name was GLADYS HENERSON and she passed away on Mar 28, 2000 (she was almost 95 years old). She was from Oakland/Alameda. I believe that one of her parents was a Langsam. Is there anybody that might know of her ancestry? I figure that the temple might have her parents/grandparents names if she ever needed it for yizkor. Please let me know if you can be of ANY help, or recommend some other avenue. Thanks so much! Moishe Miller moishe@langsam.com ______________________________________________________ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:35:59 -0400 To: jfrankel@lmi.net From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Help ? (from a Brooklynite) Hi, I am trying to find out more about the common ancestry I share with a distant cousin of mine, who has passed on. Her name was GLADYS HENERSON and she passed away on Mar 28, 2000 (she was almost 95 years old). She was from Oakland/Alameda. I believe that one of her parents was a Langsam. Can you recommend some way to find out more? Her husband was Morris who passed away quite a while ago. He is not the cousin and is beyond the scope of my research. Her ssn info was GLADYS HENERSON SSN 556-06-2051 Residence: 94610 Oakland, Alameda, CA Born 23 Dec 1905 Last Benefit: Died 28 Mar 2000 Issued: CA (1971) Is anyone in your society interested in a trade? Some local NY research in exchange for maybe a tombstone picture and a death certificate? I have no idea where she is buried. Her son may have been Stan, that owned a resteraunt, club or bistro somewhere. Thanks so much! Moishe Miller ______________________________________________________ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:22:57 -0700 To: "moishe@langsam.com" From: jeremy frankel Subject: Re: Help ? (from a Brooklynite) Dear Moishe, I looked at the Oakland area telephone book and there are no HENERSONs listed. I then tried the San Francisco book and there is just one listed. An Allen HENERSON of 34 6th Street, San Francisco, CA. The telephone number is (415) 503-0718. Naturally I don't know if there is a connection. Were the HENERSONs Jewish? There are two Jewish cemeteries in Oakland, one is part of the Mountain View Cemetery in Piedmont Avenue, the other is the Home of Peace Cemetery in the south part of Oakland. I am racking my brain to hink if there is any NY trade you can do for me. I have family who came over from London (I am English) and I also have some genealogy clients who have NYC connections. Let me think about this. Do you want to call this guy in SF? It might sound better coming from you rather than through me as an intermediary. Let me know. Jeremy Frankel President San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society ______________________________________________________ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 22:43:38 -0400 To: MERUBIN@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Sinai Cemetery? Dear Marian, Thanks again for your past help. I am writing with an even vaguer issue. I am trying to find out more about the common ancestry I share with a distant cousin of mine, who has passed on. Her name was GLADYS HENERSON and she passed away on Mar 28, 2000 (she was almost 95 years old). She was from Oakland/Alameda. I believe that one of her parents was a Langsam. Can you recommend some way to find out more? Her husband was Morris who passed away quite a while ago. He is not the cousin and is beyond the scope of my research. Her ssn info was GLADYS HENERSON SSN 556-06-2051 Residence: 94610 Oakland, Alameda, CA Born 23 Dec 1905 Last Benefit: Died 28 Mar 2000 Issued: CA (1971) Are you interested in a trade? Some local NY research in exchange for maybe a tombstone picture and a death certificate? I have no idea where she is buried. Also, her son may have been Stan, that owned a restaurant, club or bistro somewhere. She would connect into that same tree you helped me with last year. An overview is at http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/langsam/isrel-h4.htm I am told that one of her parents was a sibling to the Jacob that you found for me. Thanks so much! Moishe Miller ______________________________________________________ From: MERUBIN@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:31:29 EDT Subject: Gladys Henerson-Oakland To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 In a message dated 10/22/2002 7:54:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, moishe@langsam.com writes: Her name was GLADYS HENERSON and she passed away on Mar 28, 2000 (she was almost 95 years old). She was from Oakland/Alameda. I believe that one of her parents was a Langsam. Can you recommend some way to find out more? Her husband was Morris who passed away quite a while ago. He is not the cousin and is beyond the scope of my research. Her ssn info was Hello, Moishe It's nice to hear from you. This inquiry is especially interesting to me as I remember Gladys Henerson vaguely from Temple Sinai in Oakland. I really didn't know her, but her husband, Morris, was my religious school teacher one year. You mentioned a son Stan. I remember their older son, James. Morrie Henerson was also the executive director of Temple Sinai, so I just phoned the Temple office. They connected me to the cemetery. Gladys is buried at Home of Eternity, 500 Piedmont Avenue, Oakland 94611. The woman I spoke with (Rhonda) said they do not have any info on Glady's parents. And since Temple Sinai is reform, I have a feeling that there may not be any Hebrew on the gravestone. I told the woman that I had known the family, and she said that she did, too. I said I remembered their son, Jimmy. She said, "We're in touch in with Jimmy." I said I went on the web and got 2 southern Calif. addresses for James Henerson. She said, "Oh, from the film website?" I said no, from telephone listings. She said she couldn't reveal the address. I said which one do you like best , Santa Barbara or Sherman Oaks? She said,"Sherman Oaks." So here is Jimmy's address and Phone: James Henerson 15300 Kingswood Lane Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 Phone # 818-981-5893 I did a web search, and James is apparently a writer for some TV shows and various films. If you phone him, you can mention my name (and my brother Don Rubin) if you wish, though I don't think he would remember me. I think he's about 4 years younger than I am. I'm 68. Maybe it's best not to mention that Rhonda told me which town. Just say I remembered the name James, and that I (or you) did a web search for Calif. James Henersons. I'll find out the address to get the death certificate. I'll really be interested to know if I was sitting in synagogue with an einicle of Rebbe Elimelech! Even as a young child, I felt the connection with the ages. For maybe a year, Irwin Spira was director of the religious school. At the time I had no knowledge of the significance of the name Spira. I've not seen his name since. To be continued. Marian ______________________________________________________ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 22:56:02 -0400 To: MERUBIN@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Gladys Henerson-Oakland Wow! Talk about a needle in a haystack. Anyhow, thanks so much (once again) for helping me out. I tried finding a website for James Henerson, but could not. I will try calling him. Regarding SPIRA, I would be most happy to assist you in any way. Please keep me posted. This time please let me reciprocate in some way. Moishe ______________________________________________________ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 23:01:31 -0400 To: jeremy frankel From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Help ? (from a Brooklynite) Hi, Thanks very much for your reply. What I have learned in the meantime is that Gladys' husband, Morrie Henerson, was the executive director of Temple Sinai. His ancestry is outside the scope of my research. Gladys was Jewish and is layed to rest at Home of Eternity, in Oakland. I think one of her sons was in TV and film (Jimmy) in Sherman Oaks. I will try calling Allen, I agree with your assessment. -Moishe Miller moishe@langsma.com ______________________________________________________ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 00:58:49 -0700 To: "moishe@langsam.com" From: jeremy frankel Subject: Re: Help ? (from a Brooklynite) Hi Moishe, I happen to have on my shelf the 100th anniversary volume published for the Temple Sinai in 1975 and they are listed in there and Morris was Executive Director at the time. SO he must have passed away after then. I also know the cemetery very well as I have done some research for an Australian client who also has a distant relative buried there. I can photograph the grave and send you the picture as an email attachment if you would like. Jeremy Frankel ______________________________________________________ From: HENERSON@aol.com Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:37:45 EST Subject: Langsam geneology To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Dear Mr. Miller, I just finished glancing at the Langsam web-site, and I'm overwhelmed. I never had much interest in my family's geneology, but I find as I grow older - I'm 66 - my interest has grown. To the best of my knowledge, our connection to the Langsams is through my maternal grandmother, Fanny, who bore that maiden name. I think she had three brothers, David, Sam and Jack, all of whom have long since passed on. Dave had off-spring, but Sam and Jack died bachelors. I knew Mark Langsam and his second wife, and if memory serves, my mother considered him her first cousin. For that to be true, however, Mark would have had to be the brother of the aforementioned David, Sam and Jack - and I don't think that was the case. Anyway, I would be happy to help you in any way I can, but I have the feeling that what I just wrote amounts to the sum total of my knowledge. Best regards,] Jim Henerson ______________________________________________________ Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 22:05:13 -0500 To: HENERSON@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Langsam geneology Hi, Thanks for your reply and words of interest. It is possible that Mark was a first-cousin once-removed. I think that in the information you mentioned there is still some room to expand, if I can have your indulgence. Where/when did Fanny live and what was her married name? How many children did she have? What can you tell me about Dave Langsam? What about Sam or Jack? Thanks! Moishe Miller ______________________________________________________ From: HENERSON@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 14:48:56 EST Subject: Re: Langsam geneology To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10582 Fanny's married name was Kornhauser. She came from a village in Galicia near Krakov, but I can't come up with the name. When I was born, she lived on Sedgwick Avenue and West 197the Street in the Bronx. She had five children, Dave - two children, Bobby & Jerry, Ruth, married name Katz, two children, Jerry and (?), Dottie, no children, Gladys, my mother, two children Jim and Stan, and Anna, married name Fisk, one daughter, Marilyn. Can't tell you much about Dave, Sam or Jack. Dave ran a real estate business in Sausalito, California where my dad worked for a short time in 1944. I'm not sure what Sam did, but he might have been partners with Jack in Jack's Furniture, a retail business on Mission Street in San Francisco. Sorry I can't come up with more. Let me know if you turn up something interesting about the aforementioned. Best, Jim ______________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:47:03 -0500 To: HENERSON@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Langsam geneology Hi, Based on your response, it seems that your grandmother was an unknown child of Mayer Langsam and Feiga Sussfein. Please see my webpage on this family at http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/langsam/isrel-h4.htm where the Sam, Jack and David are described. When did Fanny pass away? Where is she buried ? Please let me know your thoughts. Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: HENERSON@aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 19:06:11 EST Subject: Family geneology To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6011 Dear Moishe, I am looking at a snail mail letter you sent me, dated October 24, 2002. If memory serves - and it may not - I replied with what meager information I had. Today, having found your letter in a pile of unfiled material, I visited the H4/H18 website and, sure enough, discovered a number of relatives. The one I didn't find was my maternal grandmother, Fanny Kornhauser, nee Langsam. According to the page, one of Mayer's progeny was one Miram who married a David Kornhausr, but she is listed as having perished in the Holocaust which Fanny survived. My mother spoke of Sam, Dave , Jack and Mark Langsam as her first cousins, but neither could I find Fanny among the progeny of Chaim or Yakov. Can you throw some light on the subject? Alternatively, could you give my E-Mail address and/or phone number to Anna Solomon or, third option, give me hers? My E-Mail address is Henerson@aol.com. My phone number is (818) 981 5893. Hope you are well and filling in the blanks. Best, Jim Henerson ______________________________________________________ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:12:53 -0500 To: HENERSON@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Family geneology Hi, Please try to confirm one thing first. Were Sam, Dave , Jack (not Mark Langsam) first cousins or brothers to Fanny your grandmother? In your note of November 1, 2002, you call them her brothers (I am resending that note to you). Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: HENERSON@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:47:21 EST Subject: Re: Family geneology To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6011 Since my mother always referred to Dave, Sam and Jack as first cousins, I can only conclude they were not brothers to Fanny since that would have made them uncles to my mom. The situation is clearer with regard to Mark, whom my mother also called a first cousin. With Mark, at least, we have in Chaim the requisite father. Sorry for the confusion. Jim ______________________________________________________ From: "Michelle Neiman" Subject: langsam family Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:08:23 -0400 To: Dear Mr. Miller, I came across your address and website while trying to research my family tree. My name is Michelle Neiman and I live in Akron, Ohio. I have been desperately seeking information concerning my grandmother whose maiden name was Langsam. My grandmother's name was Anna Langsam who married William Neiman (Wolf Neumann). She gave birth to my father Harold Neiman and died three weeks later at approximately age 24 in 1926. I have been unable to find any information concerning her, as anybody who could have given me information has since passed. I have never even been able to locate her grave which is somewhere in Pittsburg. The only information I have is that the family lived in the Pittsburg area and moved to San Francisco after a flood devastated their (furniture) business-probably the St. Patrick's Day Flood of 1936. Anna's brothers were Paul, Philip and Sam. She also had a sister named Rose. I don't have any additional information, so I don't know if I fit somewhere into the descendants of Pesach, or not. I would be grateful for any information you have concerning my grandmother or any of her siblings. I have checked many websites including ancestry.com and familysearch.org but I haven't gotten any good leads. Thank you for your time. ______________________________________________________ From: moishe@langsam.com [mailto:moishe@langsam.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:50 PM To: Michelle Neiman Subject: H4 Langsam family Hi, Tonight begins the Jewish fast of "Tisha B'Av" (the ninth day of Av), which marks the destruction of both Temples in Jewish History. I will be home tomorrow afternoon and you can try me in NY at 718-258-5512 after 4pm. In the interim, let me try to outline some of your family. Your grandmother (whose Hebrew name was Charna) came here on August 14, 1912 via the port of Antwerp together with her brother Philip (Hebrew name Pinchus) and sister Rose (Hebrew name Chula). She was nine years old. You can view the ship manifests for her arrival (2 pages) at:
I have an outline of the rest of her family at: http://www.ics.uci.edu/~dan/genealogy/Miller/langsam/isrel-h4.htm I guess that the people supplying me with the information have lost track of your grandmother's existence. If you like, I can put you in touch with your cousin Rose in San Francisco. Please share any more detail on your own genealogy with me. Who did your father, Harold Neiman, marry? How many children were there (including you)? Can you provide any more detail on your own family? Please stay in touch, Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: "Michelle Neiman"Subject: RE: H4 Langsam family Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:03:04 -0400 To: Thank you so much for the information! I will send you the rest of the family information I have and/or call you. Thanks again. ______________________________________________________ From: moishe@langsam.com [mailto:moishe@langsam.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 6:21 PM To: Michelle Neiman Subject: PA Death Records Hi, Did you consider going on-line for her death cert? You can try http://www.vitalrec.com/pa.html or other sites. Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: "Michelle Neiman" Subject: RE: PA Death Records Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:04:48 -0400 To: We were able to get her death certificate because she actually died here in Akron. The only information the death certificate provided was that her body was returned to Pittsburgh by hearse. I found that unusual since most travel was by train back then. No one in the family seems to know where she could be buried. It is no small task since there are about 400 jewish burial areas in the Pittsburgh area. I have looked 3-4 times to narrow the search. Some are actually just a few headstones in between houses. I will keep looking. I may also try to find her marriage record since that might indicate the congregation she belonged to, which might help narrow my search. ______________________________________________________ From: "Michelle Neiman" Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:00:50 -0400 To: Once again, I want to thank you for the information. I really can't express what it means. I am named after my grandmother-my middle name is Langsam-so I have searched a long, long time to find out something about my family. You have handed me the missing pieces! Anna Langsam married William Neiman aka Wolf Neumann. They lived in Akron, Ohio. She gave birth to my father Harold Neiman on July 1, 1926 and died 22 days later on July 23, 1926. She was buried in Pittsburg somewhere supposedly with her mother, and an aunt. ( I have never been able to locate the graves but I have renewed hope now.) My grandfather remarried (third wife actually, Anna was the second wife!) The new wife was also called Anna. Together they had four more children-my father's half-siblings. My father Harold Neiman married Hazel "Casey" Kline. I am one of three daughters: Karyn Lynne Neiman born 1963, Lori Ann Neiman born 1965, died 1988. I am Michelle Langsam Neiman born 1967. My sister also lives in Akron and is married to John Goldsmith. They have two daughters-Allison and Victoria. I barely remember both my older and younger "aunt" roses who used to visit us in Akron, Ohio. We also visited them in San Francisco at the apartment building on Funston Street. It is good to hear that the younger Rose is still living but it is my understanding that she does not want to hear from my part of the family and has been reluctant to share family history in the past, so I don't think I will travel down that road. I am very excited to continue my family research. You have opened many doors! I will try to call you one evening this week to speak in person, and that will give you a day or two to update the family information. I am eternally grateful. Thanks again. Take care. ______________________________________________________ From: moishe@langsam.com [mailto:moishe@langsam.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:22 AM To: Michelle Neiman Subject: Re: PA Death Records What are the names of her parents on her death certificate? What other info is there on it? Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: "Michelle Neiman" Subject: RE: PA Death Records Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:08:22 -0400 To: I will have to check with my sister. She has the death certificate. It has been a couple years since I looked so I don't remember what information there was...I will write back after I take a look. ______________________________________________________ From: "Philadelphia Archives" Subject: Re: Naturalization records from 1911 - Pittsburgh, PA Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:25:32 -0400 To: 7/27/2004 Dear Mr. Miller: Thank you for your recent e-mail message in which you asked about our holdings regarding naturalization. The Mid-Atlantic Region is the repository for federal documents considered permanently valuable. Federal agencies and U.S. Courts in the states of Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia have created the records that we hold. The National Archives is the repository of naturalization records for the Federal District and Circuit Courts. The indexes for the Federal Courts in the Western District of PA were searched for the years 1906-1926. Jakob Langsom was found. To receive copies of the naturalization papers, provide us with your postal mailing address. Please send a check or money order for $10.00 made out to NATFB and mail to our address listed below. Once we receive payment we will forward the copies. Before September 22, 1922, females of any age and males under age 18 were naturalized under their husband's or father's petition. Sincerely, Gail E. Farr Archives Specialist The National Archives and Records Administration Mid-Atlantic Region 900 Market Street Philadelphia, PA 19107-4292 (215) 606-0100 philadelphia.archives@nara.gov ______________________________________________________
I would be very interested to hear from anyone with knowledge or an interest in the Miller family.
Moishe Miller
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