Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 05:45:06 -0500 From: Suzan Wynne <srwynne@erols.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-RR010799 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com> Subject: Re: Quickie? My book says that the Urzad Stanu Cywilnego in Chrzanow has limited vital records. Therefore, you will need to write (in Polish) to the USC in the town (you don't need any street address) to inquire. Chances are that there were records from the town until about 1942. The question is whether you can find them today. We've had a lot of pneumonia and bronchial problems here. The baby is much better but he's still coughing. I've had an inquiry about H30 from a man who is related to Frank Langsam's wife Esther, whom I now learn had the maiden name of Mensh. The man is sending me more information. I will send it on to you as it develops. This is a family that probably came from Jawornik Polski. I found them extensively in the records from that district. But, it appears that Frank and Esther lived in Bircza, not Jawornik. Suzan "moishe@langsam.com" wrote: > Hi, > How goes it? Over here, we have made it through chicken pox season. > > Have a quick question. My wife's family was lastly from Chrzanow in > Galicia. They are trying to find out the names of her grandfather's three > children that perished in the Holocaust, all born after 1932. Do you know > where those records might exist? > > -Thanks! > Moishe _________________________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 05:46:24 -0500 From: Suzan Wynne <srwynne@erols.com> To: "Miller, Moishe" <moishe@langsam.com> Subject: [Fwd: Langsam 2] From: "Mail from Erols" <hagedalips@erols.com> To: "Suzan Wynne" <srwynne@erols.com> Subject: Re: Langsam 2 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:51:45 +0530 Dear Suzan, How nice to hear from you! I'm glad that we've established some connection, even if through marriage. I'd be very grateful if you could help me find ANYTHING about the Mensh or Damashek clans, by checking the yizkor book for the Sanok area or any of your other resources. Here's what I know about the Frank and Esther Langsam family. Frank had a candy store in Brooklyn, NY on Christopher Avenue. He and Esther (my maternal grandmother's sister) had the following children: Grace, who married Nat Mash Ida, who married Aaron Chasen Louis, who married Jeanette Bander (whom you mentioned) Lilyan, who married Harry Elman Syde, who first married Hymie Kupperberg and then Rabbi Nathan Zuber Elsie, who married Oscar Einhorn and then ? Koffer Bertha, who married Leo Schimmel Morris Of the above, I know my Mom and aunts were closest to Ida, who passed away within the last 2 years. My only other immediate contact is with Elsie Koffer, who lives in Florida and could possibly provide you with more information on the Langsam family. I misplaced her address, but you can get it by contacting her son, Dr. Roland Einhorn, who lives in Baltimore at 3 Ice Pond Court, 21208; (410) 486-0559. Tell Roland and Barbara that I referred you to them; they're lovely folks! Roland can fill you in probably on the cousins he has in his next generation, to make the tree even fuller for this branch of Langsams. If you can get information on Esther Langsam (nee Damashek), that will give me a lead on my grandmother's family. How can I get further information about Bircza, Polana, Lotowisk? What was your daughter-in-law's maiden name? I've been with Beth El as a member for over 50 years, so we must have some mutual friends. Hope my information was helpful, and hope you can help me further. Allan Lipsitz Hope some of this helps ______________________________________________________ Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:01:26 -0500 To: Suzan Wynne <srwynne@erols.com> From: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Langsam 2] Will you be calling the Dr? What are your future plans with this branch. I do not want to overstep my bounds or step on your toes. -Moishe ______________________________________________________ Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:09:56 -0500 From: Suzan Wynne <srwynne@erols.com> To: "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Langsam 2] I'll call the Einhorns very soon though I doubt that it will come to much beyond what we know about the previous generations or how they are connected to the main tree. Our information came from two members of the family who were more connected to Europe than anyone living today and I don't expect that we will find out anything startling. However, I will follow up given that there is a known Bircza connection and we seem to be on a path with many branches leading to Bircza. Suzan ______________________________________________________ Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 10:45:00 -0400 From: Suzan WynneTo: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Langsam 2] Here's what the Einhorn folks wrote: Elsie Hoffer was the person who wrote back. She contacted the widow of a cousin for some information but the widow knew nothing. Elsie provided a rather disjointed account of the family. I think I'll have to sort it all out and get back to you. The widow gave a couple of addresses which I will include when I send you what I know....which is not much. One of the addresses is in Israel and the other is in Poland. One of the relatives stayed in Poland and married there (to a non-Jew) after the war. I doubt that much will come of these contacts. Suzan ______________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 12:43:15 -0500 To: Suzan Wynne From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Langsam 2] Can you tell me what parts of H30 were from Michael's letter and what parts you joined with Polish records? -Moishe ______________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:50:33 -0500 To: Suzan Wynne From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: [Fwd: Langsam 2] The nutshell is I have a theory that H6's Samuel (see your 1988 update) was the progenitor of H14, H15, H30 and H62. That is without the Louis Langsam from Argentina (whoever that is). This seems to hold based on what I have so far from various family. I also think that the cigar guy was from H30 as well, via the Morris. For this to be true, the H30 tree needs to be split. You mention in the original book that the tree was built open the theory that the Polish data matched the letter Michael received. So I am asking, must Frank's father be Leib? Do you have his death record or the name of the cemetery for Frank? Happy Purim! Moishe ______________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 17:11:33 -0400 From: Roland Einhorn Subject: Family tree To: moishe@langsam.com Dear Moishe, I got your name and e-mail address from your website the internet. My name is Dr. Roland Einhorn and I am a grandson of the late Frank Langsam of Booklyn, New York. I currently live in Baltimore, Maryland but I am originally from New York City. Last evening, I had dinner with Charlie Langsam, who is listed on your website as a member of the Israel Langsam family. We were trying to figure out how we were related since both of our families originally came from Poland. My grandfather died before I was born and my mother, Elsie Koffer (nee Langsam) has very little information about her father and his family. My only other contact is a cousin named Chana Frimer (nee Langsam) who lives in Yavne, Israel. My mother is listed on your website as part of the Lieb Langsam family of Jawornik. Any information you could provide to me regarding my ancestors would be greatly appreciated. I have just ordered Suzan Wynne's book to get more information on how to research my family tree. Sincerely, Roland C. Einhorn, M.D. reinhorn@comcast.net ______________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 17:32:24 -0400 To: Roland Einhorn From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Family tree Hi, Thank you very much for your inquiry. I would be very interested in trying to expand upon what we already know. First of all, this is the family outline that I have for you immediate family. Please provide any additional corrections. I included Charlie's family outline below yours. Perhaps you can either pass along his email address or have him contact me. Chana Frimer comes from Osias, brother to Frank. I would be most interested in trying to take your families back further and connecting you to Charlie, as well as my own family. Happy New Year! Moishe Miller moishe@langsam.com Descendants of Frank Langsam 1 Frank Langsam 1880 - 1939 .. +Esther Damashek ......... 2 Ida Langsam 1905 - 1999 ............. +Aaron Chasen ......... 2 Lena "Lilyan Langsam" Langsam ............. +Harry Elman ......... 2 Louis Langsam 1908 - 1992 ............. +Jennette Bander .................... 3 Elaine Langsam 1950 - .................... 3 Myra Langsam 1954 - ......... 2 Sadie "Syde Langsam" Langsam ............. +Hymie Kupperberg ......... *2nd Husband of Sadie Langsam: ............. +Nathan Zuber ......... 2 Morris Langsam ......... 2 Elsie Langsam ............. +Oscar Einhorn .................... 3 Roland C. "Roland Einhorn" Einhorn ........................ +Barbara ? ............................... 4 Kiera Einhorn ............................... 4 Lisa Einhorn ............................... 4 Jeffrey Einhorn .................... 3 Keren E. Einhorn 1950 - 2000 ........................ +Jonathan Alexander ............................... 4 Jessica Alexander ............................... 4 Daniel Alexander ............................... 4 Benjamin Alexander .................... 3 Frederic Einhorn ......... *2nd Husband of Elsie Langsam: ............. +boy Koffer ......... 2 Grace Langsam ............. +Nat Mash ......... 2 Bertha Langsam ............. +Leo Schimmel For Charlie's family I have the following: Descendants of Israel Langsam 1 Israel Langsam ......... 2 Mayer Langsam ............. +Feiga Sussfein .................... 3 Miriam Langsam 1880 - 1942 ........................ +Joseph David Kornhauser ............................... 4 Helen "Henya Kornhauser" Kornhauser 1905 - ................................... +Moishe Wigdor ........................................... 5 Joseph "Jose Wigdor" Wigdor 1943 - ............................................... +Raquel ? ........................................... 5 Lalo "Ariel Wigdor" Wigdor ............................................... +Gloria ? ...................................................... 6 Valeria Wigdor 1976 - .......................................................... +Ariel ? ...................................................... 6 Ivana Wigdor 1980 - ...................................................... 6 Lisandro Wigdor 1983 - ........................................... 5 Asher Wigdor ............................................... +girl ? ........................................... *2nd Wife of Asher Wigdor: ............................................... +Reni ? ...................................................... 6 Hagai Wigdor 1976 - ...................................................... 6 Eyal Wigdor 1980 - ........................................... 5 child Wigdor ............................... 4 Avrohm Kornhauser 1910 - 1934 ............................... 4 Isidore "Izzy Kornhauser" Kornhauser 1914 - ................................... +Miriam Kab 1918 - ........................................... 5 Anna Kornhauser 1952 - ............................................... +Jerry Solomon ...................................................... 6 David Solomon 1979 - ...................................................... 6 Jessica Solomon 1982 - ............................... 4 Rose "Rudzie Kornhauser" Kornhauser ................................... +Henry Grossman ........................................... 5 Miriam "Gucia Grossman" Grossman 1945 - ............................................... +Adrian Isvoranu .................... 3 Rochel Langsam 1886 - 1936 ........................ +Volf Sommer 1874 - 1974 ............................... 4 Ginny Sommer - 1995 ................................... +Avrohm Rones ........................................... 5 girl Rones ............................................... +boy Levy ........................................... 5 Ronnie Rones ........................................... 5 Meir Rones ........................................... 5 girl Rones ............................................... +boy Stitetzky ............................... 4 Raizel "Roza Sommer" Sommer 1915 - ................................... +Avrohm Menachem Nelken ........................................... 5 Dodi Nelken ............................................... +girl Bistrizky ...................................................... 6 Chanoch Nelken ........................................... 5 Rochel Nelken ............................................... +boy Kagan - 2001 ............................... 4 Esther Sommer - 1988 ................................... +Yossel Weinberg 1917 - ........................................... 5 boy Weinberg ........................................... 5 boy Weinberg ........................................... 5 boy Weinberg ........................................... 5 boy Weinberg ............................... 4 Lilly Sommer 1922 - ................................... +Dovid Katz ........................................... 5 Malka Katz 1947 - ............................................... +Fishel Katz ...................................................... 6 Mendy Katz .......................................................... +Rochel Leviton ................................................................. 7 Chaya Katz ................................................................. 7 Levi Yitzchok Katz ...................................................... 6 Chanie Katz .......................................................... +Raphy Konikov ................................................................. 7 Mendy Konikov ................................................................. 7 boy Konikov ................................................................. 7 girl Konikov ...................................................... 6 Zevi Katz .......................................................... +Chani Suffrin ...................................................... 6 Devorah Katz .......................................................... +Yitzy Goldberg ................................................................. 7 Menachem Mendel Goldberg ...................................................... 6 Yitzy Katz ........................................... 5 Rivka Katz ............................................... +Avrohm Grossman ...................................................... 6 Bati Grossman .......................................................... +Ronnie Rosenberg ................................................................. 7 Dovid Rosenberg ................................................................. 7 Shmuel Rosenberg ................................................................. 7 Pinny Rosenberg ...................................................... 6 Adina Grossman .......................................................... +boy Kraus ................................................................. 7 child Kraus ................................................................. 7 child Kraus ...................................................... 6 Chaim Zev Grossman ...................................................... 6 Yoni Grossman ...................................................... 6 Shimi Grossman ........................................... 5 Shuku Katz ............................................... +Yisroel Schusterman ...................................................... 6 Rochel Schusterman .......................................................... +Yosef Yitzchok Kalmanson ................................................................. 7 girl Kalmanson ................................................................. 7 girl Kalmanson ................................................................. 7 boy Kalmanson ................................................................. 7 girl Kalmanson ...................................................... 6 Dini Schusterman .......................................................... +boy ? ................................................................. 7 child ? ................................................................. 7 child ? ................................................................. 7 child ? ................................................................. 7 child ? ...................................................... 6 Yakov Schusterman .......................................................... +girl Gurary ................................................................. 7 Shmuel Schusterman ...................................................... 6 Chani Schusterman ...................................................... 6 Esther Miriam Schusterman ...................................................... 6 Shevi Schusterman ...................................................... 6 Zevi Schusterman ...................................................... 6 Nachi Schusterman ...................................................... 6 Yose Schusterman ...................................................... 6 Mushki Schusterman ........................................... 5 Tzvi Katz 1953 - .................... 3 Dave Langsam ........................ +Francine ? .................... 3 Sam "Shmiel Langsam" Langsam 1889 - 1985 .................... 3 Shea Langsam - 1942 ........................ +girl ? - 1942 ............................... 4 boy Langsam - 1942 ............................... 4 boy Langsam - 1942 .................... 3 Morris Langsam 1898 - 1984 ........................ +Minny ? ............................... 4 Fred Langsam 1917 - 2001 ................................... +Lee "Leah Sweder" Sweder 1918 - 2000 ........................................... 5 Marsha Langsam 1947 - ............................................... +Lessing "Less Nohl" Nohl ........................................... *2nd Husband of Marsha Langsam: ............................................... +Allan Henderson ...................................................... 6 Matthew Henderson .......................................................... +Leah ? ................................................................. 7 girl Henderson ...................................................... *2nd Wife of Matthew Henderson: .......................................................... +Marry Monie ...................................................... 6 Justin Paul Henderson .......................................................... +Brandie ? ................................................................. 7 boy Henderson ................................................................. 7 boy Henderson ........................................... 5 Robbie Langsam ............................................... +Marie ? ...................................................... 6 child Langsam ...................................................... 6 child Langsam ................................................................. 7 child ? ................................................................. 7 child ? ............................... 4 Bella Langsam ................................... +boy ? ........................................... 5 child ? ........................................... 5 child ? ............................... *2nd Husband of Bella Langsam: ................................... +boy Vogel .................... 3 Irving "Itche Langsam" Langsam 1900 - ........................ +Frances "Fay ?" ? ............................... 4 Helen Langsam 1933 - ................................... +Don Cherry ........................................... 5 Karen Cherry ............................................... +Phil Larson ...................................................... 6 Nicholas Larson 1985 - ...................................................... 6 Ryan Larson 1988 - ........................................... 5 Steve Cherry ........................................... 5 Doug Cherry ............................................... +Lisa ? ...................................................... 6 Michael Cherry 1999 - ............................... 4 Marvin Langsam 1941 - .................... 3 Sylvia Langsam 1900 - 1985 ........................ +boy ? ............................... 4 Sol Langsam 1925 - ................................... +Jackie ? ........................................... 5 Kathy Langsam 1954 - ............................................... +boy ? ........................................... 5 Marsha Langsam 1956 - ............................................... +boy August ...................................................... 6 boy August ...................................................... 6 boy August ........................................... 5 Carol Langsam 1956 - ............................................... +boy Slamovich ...................................................... 6 boy Slamovich ...................................................... 6 boy Slamovich .................... 3 Beatrice Langsam ........................ +boy De Stafano ............................... 4 boy De Stafano ............................... 4 boy De Stafano .................... 3 Jack "Yankel Langsam" Langsam 1902 - 1995 ......... 2 Chaim Langsam ............. +Rose ? .................... 3 Mark Langsam ........................ +girl ? - 1942 ............................... 4 child Langsam - 1942 ............................... 4 child Langsam - 1942 .................... *2nd Wife of Mark Langsam: ........................ +Ida ? ............................... 4 Charlie Langsam 1948 - ................................... +Valia ? .................... 3 girl Langsam ........................ +Pinkus Ber Schwartz ............................... 4 Isidore Schwartz ................................... +Esther Schwartz ........................................... 5 Sidney Schwartz ............................................... +Sylvia ? ...................................................... 6 Marti Schwartz ...................................................... 6 Laurie Schwartz .......................................................... +boy White ...................................................... 6 Brian Schwartz ........................................... 5 Ruth Schwartz ............................... 4 Carl Schwartz ........................................... 5 Irving Schwartz ........................................... 5 Beverly Schwartz ............................... 4 Aron Schwartz ........................................... 5 girl Schwartz ............................... 4 girl Schwartz ............................... 4 Rose Schwartz ................................... +boy Scheiner ........................................... 5 Norm Scheiner ............................................... +Shira Barnett ............................... 4 Sylvia Schwartz ................................... +boy Rosenberg ............................... 4 child Schwartz - 1942 ............................... 4 child Schwartz - 1942 ............................... 4 child Schwartz - 1942 ......... 2 Yakov Langsam 1863 - 1949 ............. +Dora ? .................... 3 Rose Langsam .................... 3 Samuel Langsam ........................ +Frieda ? ............................... 4 Rose Langsam .................... 3 Paul Langsam .................... 3 Phillip Langsam ______________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 19:02:33 -0400 From: Roland Einhorn Subject: Re: Family tree To: moishe@langsam.com Dear Moishe, Thank you so much for sending the information. I will review it and send a copy of Charlie's family tree to him. Happy New Year, Roland ______________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 11:57:33 -0400 To: Roland Einhorn From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Your connection to Alexander and Gerry Langsam Hi, On another front, can you tell me the specific connection between your family and Gerry Langsam? Her husband was Alexander Langsam and he also lived in your area of the USA. Moishe ______________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 13:37:12 -0400 From: Roland Einhorn Subject: Re: Your connection to Alexander and Gerry Langsam To: moishe@langsam.com Dear Moishe, I do not know either Gerry or Alexander Langsam. Roland ______________________________________________________ Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 00:37:11 -0400 To: Roland Einhorn From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Your connection to Alexander and Gerry Langsam I spoke with your mother last year I think and she mentioned Gerry. Can you ask her? Moishe ______________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 00:30:23 -0400 From: Roland Einhorn Subject: Re: Family tree To: moishe@langsam.com Dear Moishe, Charlie's e-mail address is: samlang@aol.com . Roland ______________________________________________________ From: Samlang@aol.com Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 15:37:48 EDT Subject: Re: Family tree To: moishe@langsam.com Dear Moist: Thank you so much for the information about my family tree. There were a few mistakes: My father, Mark Langsam had 8 brothers and sisters. I only know the name of the youngest brother, Mendel Langsam. All of this brothers and sisters died in the holocaust except for Mendel who went to Palestine in 1938 and died in Israel in 1983. My father, Mark, married my mother, Ida in 1944 in Vienna, Austria and came to the U.S. in 1947. My mother, Ida died in 1983 but was buried in San Francisco, not in Israel. My father died in 1986 and was buried in Los Angeles. If you have any more information about my family tree I would greatly appreciate it. Best regards, Charley Langsam ______________________________________________________ Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:09:28 -0400 To: Samlang@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Family tree Hi, Thanks so much for your response. I do have some more data on your family. Firstly, via Mayer's death records, we found that his father (your great-grandfather) was named Israel. Also, I still have some loose ends. There is a Henderson connection that I have not been able to pin down. Some descendents own a restaurant of sorts in California. I would like to follow up more on your branch. Do you know more about your father's first family that perished? Any names or old pictures? Do you know any detail on your own grandfather? Did your uncle Mendel have any children? If so, do you have the name or address of a person I can contact in their tree to try and fill in some more? Do you know any more about Chaim's siblings or other Langsam's that you know are related to you, even if you do not know how? Any detail on Israel, Chaim's father? Thanks so much for your response and time, Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: Samlang@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:08:13 EDT Subject: Re: Family tree To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 Dear Moishe-- Thank you so much for the family tree information. As to your questions: I am born in San Francisco in 1949. I think that the Hendersons are spelled Henersons. There are two relatives, Stanley and James who live in California. Their parents were Morris and Gladys Henerson. Morris died several years ago. I don't know about Gladys. My uncle, Mendel had no children and was never married. Also my father, Mark Langsam had 2 daughters who died in the holocaust but they were born before 1942. My mother, Ida Langsam's maiden name was Goldwater. Her first husband's last name was Diller. He also died in the holocaust. I don't have much more information but would greatly appreciate more information about the Langsam family tree. Best regards, Charley Langsam ______________________________________________________ Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 22:27:27 -0400 To: Samlang@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Family tree Hi, Thanks again for the feedback. I can try to get you a copy of the original book published in 1986. Also, can you tell me how Morris and Gladys Henerson were related to you? IF not, can you put me in touch with someone that knows more about them? Thanks! Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: Samlang@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 11:20:08 EDT Subject: Re: Family tree To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 Hi Gladys Henerson was my father's (Mark's) first cousin. She was married to Morris Henerson who dies a few years ago. Best regards and thanks for all the family tree information. Charley Langsam ______________________________________________________ Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:02:56 -0400 To: Samlang@aol.com From: "moishe@langsam.com" Subject: Re: Family tree Thanks. As an FYI, from the Social Security Death Index, I find one entry: MORRIS HENERSON SSN 117-10-7856 Residence: 94612 Oakland, Alameda, CA Born 28 Oct 1906 Last Benefit: Died Oct 1985 Issued: NY (Before 1951) I will try and track them down to find out which sibling of your grandfather they come from. I will keep you posted. I really appreciate your patience with me. Also, Marti Ann Schwartz, a cousin of yours, asked that if I ever "find" you, to let her know. In deference to your privacy, would you like me to, or would you prefer not? To make it easy for you, if you do not respond, I will assume you prefer that I do not. Be well! Moishe ______________________________________________________ From: Samlang@aol.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:24:15 EDT Subject: Re: Family tree To: moishe@langsam.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 Dear Moishe I would very much like to know the connection with my grandfather and Gladys Henerson (She was married to Morris Henerson and is the Langsam cousin.) It is ok for you to give my e-mail address to Marti Schwartz. She can get in touch with you. Thank you for all your work and information about the Langsam family tree. Stay well and best regards, Charley Langsam
I would be very interested to hear from anyone with knowledge or an interest in the Miller family.
Moishe Miller
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